Player Features and Ideas Discussion

This is because of the way the chat is designed. How can it work any different when you change channel every time you jump? Of course local will not be used to chat then, whats the point.

If we got regional chat instead, you will see the chat come alive because it becomes much more persistent.


Yes let me start up a convo with a stranger, thats not creepy or annoying at all. We need an actual public chat.



Have you thought about why that is? Because nobody uses local to chat, because its useless for it in most cases.

This is an basically completely unsupported claim. You say this would make the chat more used, but anywhere near any sort of populated system it would be almost unusable due to spam, advertising, ect. Local already has uses, but random chatter is not one of them. Most players have either Corp, Alliance, or any of the game's many informal group chat channels for this, you're trying to fill a niche that's already filled and destroying another in the process.



These already exist, there are plenty of them listed in your channels list in-game. The difference here is that participation in these is entirely voluntary, though even for newbies there are NPC corp channels.



Yup, as opposed to your idea which would be even more useless for 90% of players by containing either far too many people (High Sec and populated areas of Null) or no one worth talking to (The few less populous regions of Low and Null).

Like, have you seen Jita or Amarr local? Or even Rens? You're baiscally saying that you want that to be the experience for everyone in about 100 other systems as well per trade-hub.

I kinda disagree, I don't think it's a simple matter of bringing more people together = a livelier chat. At least not in EVE.

Evidence for that is all around. Take a look at some of the more populated channels - wormholes, mining, etc - they're usually pretty silent with the occasional bit of genuine chat, but more often than not just goofiness or trolling when they're active.Trade hubs for instance have hundreds, sometimes thousands of people and their local chat is pure cancer most of the time, nothing but sales, scams and some spam. Good luck trying to have a proper chat.

Me myself I'm a bit of a social butterfly, and a roleplayer. My characters very often start chatting in local whenever we pop out of wormhole space. Regardless if there's 1 person or sometimes 30 I'll say hi and try to start up some conversation. I'd say a good 75% of the time I go ignored, everyone stays silent, and maybe only 5% of the time a decent conversation actually results from talking in local.

People don't want to talk ... in most channels in EVE. Regardless of the amount of population in the channel, the lack of liveliness is a by-product of the game itself, it's environment and atmosphere and no amount of change to the chat structure will alter that. Nobody knows who is who, why they are there, is it a scam, are they some weirdo, is it a trap?

The only exception I find is populated channels of a common interest. Corp public channels, regional channels (like evedownunder for Aussies), event channels, etc. Everyone in those channels is there for a common reason and interest, so they tend to be quite lively.

Bots need local - it must stay. Mining bot fleets won't know when to warp back to the citadel to avoid interaction with actively playing players. Carrier ratting bots won't be as efficient.

LOCAL MUST STAY - think of the bots

They wont appear in constellation or regional. Like they don't now.

It is you manus that is ignorant, the chat will not become more alive just more cluttered with spam, people use set chat channels all the time or their respective npc corp channels, not public.




Nobody is scared of socializing you blooming idiot, but I for one would despise having to listen to Jita no matter where I am at in the forge, get a clue nooblet.





Trade Channels already exsist, we do not World of Warcraft bull crap in EvE, please shut your hole.




NO, its not needed, and so the Devs should not spend wasted time on it.

Uhm yep, now add all the spam from the trade hubs, the clear spam spam guys garbage, and any crosstalk.......and your msg is quickly lost in mere seconds in any region with a trade hub.

Not to mention, the region chat will most likely never get used in nullsec, they all have private intel channels and Voice comms.
Oh, highsec...same thing private channels, corp channels, and voice comms.

This will never work as you intend it, people will get sick of trying to use it as the only option as anybody especially trolls or even those that are just plain ignorant/racist/etc in their speech will just muck it up.
I personally do not want to listen/read that crap every day, have my game invaded by stupid garbage that does not interest me and with no way to turn it off, well it just gets closed....

YOU CAN NOT GET RID OF LOCAL, for a number of reasons SO QUIT TRYING!!

Nope, I will not cut it out.........

1.) My responses are not a knee jerk response.
2.) We already have 'default' chats, your idea is redundant in that regards and not required, in fact it is waste of the Devs time spent on other things.
3.) Players interact when players interact, not because of nor because of not chats.
4.) I do make sense, I like having Local because i can use it to fleet people up easily not in my corp or other chats that already in the same system with me. I do not want to know sometimes what is going on in the whole region however, and you are trying to force that on others.

5.) the capslock was for emphasis sakes only.

6.) By now you have become the type of person that needs to be acquired in game, located and hunted down, maybe not by wardecs, but how about finding when you boost and attempting to kill the orca, failing that anybody in your fleet instead as an alternative target.

7.) your idea is shite, you are shite, and you should absolutely STFU now.

No it would be better. Botters would get tired of a lone cloaky docking up all botters in the region. Or they would have to modify their scripts to allow some nuetrals / reds or something.

This would kill botters. They would stop botting or they will perish by the hundreds and then stop botting.

How long would you plex your 30 bot mining fleet if it spent all day every day idle in your pos because someone neutral or red was somewhere in the region cloaked up and afk? This is a lay up to get rid of botting. Bots that can't make a profit are not very useful!

I don't really care about who uses it for what and how often. I just want it so bot wither and die. Other than botting, what is local good for?