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If Outposts become faction citadels...

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Cristl
#1 - 2017-04-12 14:49:40 UTC
Will any stuff inside be moveable to asset safety?

For example, if some hypothetical loser had stuff trapped in southern wastelands from the days of, say, Ascendant Frontier, would they be able to move them to a lowsec station/citadel?

I'm just asking for a friend, but it would be pretty interesting to see an original '06 ratting Raven etc. Like some sort of time capsule.

I wonder if the dirt algorithm has been applied retroactively too - that'll take m...my friend a long time to wipe off for sure!
Kanya Jade
#2 - 2017-04-12 14:57:18 UTC
Man, all of that stuff locked away in stations people have lost access to. I'd be interested to see all of the time capsules that might start appearing.
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#3 - 2017-04-12 15:04:42 UTC
It isn't a question of if - it will happen and yes, you will be able to move your stuff to asset safety same as regular Citadels.
Netan MalDoran
Hail To The King
The Silent Syndicate
#4 - 2017-04-12 16:18:43 UTC
This will drastically change SOV warfare, now there's not much risk in losing trillions in assets in a locked Outpost ._.

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Matthias Ancaladron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2017-04-12 18:02:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Matthias Ancaladron
Would they redesign them tho?
I wouldn't mind having a curvy gold amarr citadel.
Upwells are ugly.
TigerXtrm
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2017-04-12 20:16:03 UTC
Matthias Ancaladron wrote:
Would they redesign them tho?
I wouldn't mind having a curvy gold amarr citadel.
Upwells are ugly.


They said they would rescale them, but I kinda hope for a more elaborate makeover.

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#7 - 2017-04-13 03:03:04 UTC
Cristl wrote:
move them to a lowsec station/citadel?

uhh asset safety can do that Shocked

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Cristl
#8 - 2017-04-13 06:50:08 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
Cristl wrote:
move them to a lowsec station/citadel?

uhh asset safety can do that Shocked
Erm, well that's the definition of asset safety. But when Fozzie wrote:

Quote:
During the downtime on the event day, the new faction Citadels will be automatically anchored at a location near the Outpost or Conquerable Station they are replacing. Whenever possible items that were inside the old Outpost or Conquerable will be moved directly into the new Citadel, with some items moved into asset safety as needed. Any of the items placed in the new Citadels can be manually placed into asset safety by their owners whenever they wish, just like all items in other Upwell structures.

What is "whenever possible"? Does that include ancient items of people that haven't owned the outpost for a decade? It mentions manual transfer by the owners, but what about ex-owners?

Basically, does my stuff automagically transfer to asset safety, or does the database say "this doesn't belong to the owning corp, I'm going to delete it"?
Eternus8lux8lucis
Guardians of the Gate
RAZOR Alliance
#9 - 2017-04-13 10:24:49 UTC
It had better do the same as all Citadels or else everyone coming back into the game from yesteryears is pretty much boned which would not be good for getting players to return if they leave. Take a break from Eve, lose all your stuff. Doesnt good PR make.Twisted

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xttz
GSF Logistics and Posting Reserves
Goonswarm Federation
#10 - 2017-04-13 12:07:50 UTC  |  Edited by: xttz
Cristl wrote:
What is "whenever possible"? Does that include ancient items of people that haven't owned the outpost for a decade? It mentions manual transfer by the owners, but what about ex-owners?

Basically, does my stuff automagically transfer to asset safety, or does the database say "this doesn't belong to the owning corp, I'm going to delete it"?


I read it as CCP having not planned out every possibility yet. There will be all sorts of of weird & wonderful item states like impounded items, locked BPOs, undelivered industry jobs, etc that need to be handled in different ways.

They also need to work out what should happen when this change modifies who has access to an item. For example, if a locked / impounded BPO goes to asset safety it can be grabbed by far more people than before.