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New friend in EVE

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Wiggle Tuff's
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2017-04-11 14:32:31 UTC
So i told my friend about EVE online after i started playing it, and he eventually made an account but doesn't really want to have to catch up to me, since it'll probably take a while, (ive gotten to the point of gallentene destroyers). Is there a way to speed everything up with me helping him, or is he just gonna have to take a while to get everything?

Thanks Ugh
Roci Nantes
Perfusus Sanguine
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2017-04-11 14:54:27 UTC
He can buy skill injectors.


UP to 5million sp they grant you 500k sp for around 660million isk

5million to 50milltion sp they grant you 400k sp

Beyond 50million they grant you 300k sp
Keno Skir
#3 - 2017-04-11 14:59:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Keno Skir
Wiggle Tuff's wrote:
So i told my friend about EVE online after i started playing it, and he eventually made an account but doesn't really want to have to catch up to me, since it'll probably take a while, (ive gotten to the point of gallentene destroyers). Is there a way to speed everything up with me helping him, or is he just gonna have to take a while to get everything?

Thanks Ugh


If you're flying destroyers, your friend is at pretty much the same level as you anyway. It's like seeing somebody an inch in front of you at the start of a marathon and saying "ah man that guy's so far ahead what's the point?". Add to that the fact that in this marathon you can take any route you like, any mode of travel and stop any time you like to look around. Believe me it's because you're BOTH brand new that you think you're any real distance ahead of him. The winner here isn't the one who made it to the end fastest because there is no end and nobody's timing you.

I suggest you just fly whatever he's flying and in a few weeks you probably both decide to fly something else anyway. Hopefully by then this "catching up to another player" fantasy is out of both of your systems and you realise EvE doesn't work like that.

He can also buy injectors, but it's not worth it since the two of you are "seconds" apart in SP in the grand scheme of things, and in a couple weeks you won't even notice Pirate
Orakkus
ImperiaI Federation
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2017-04-11 15:22:44 UTC
Plus, you need to realize that Eve Online isn't like other games where, if you progress to the next level, the previous stuff is no longer useful. Frigates are still valuable ships, and in some cases, are more appropriate to use than destroyers. This is especially true in PVP where a thought-out mix of ships (that often include frigates) is the basis for most fleets.

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#5 - 2017-04-11 17:48:51 UTC
I wouldn't worry about it. My friend who got me into eve started something like 5-6 months before me. With the eve skill system you spend exponential time for linear gains, there is also a lot of width rather than depth. There are 4 races and 4 weapon types so if you specialize in one weapon system and race of ships you will be "ahead" of someone who muddles about trying to train multiple with less depth. that said depending on your ship and fit you may or may not beat them in a fight due to their choices, also whoever brings friends has a huge advantage. Heck there are 5 weapon systems if you count drones which I didn't only because a small amount of training in drones gives a lot of access for many ships.

These days I have probably 100m more sp than him as he stopped playing.

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Forest Archer
State War Academy
Caldari State
#6 - 2017-04-11 18:55:09 UTC
Also you have to realize you can be flying battleships but if you can fly one and he specializes in frigate he could still blow you up. If only because he can fly it better.

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Alasdan Helminthauge
AirHogs
Hogs Collective
#7 - 2017-04-12 06:00:31 UTC
Isn't his 250k bonus SP enough to insta train a destroyer? Or are you at the point of mastery V of a Magus?
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2017-04-12 09:45:05 UTC
Skill points are not that important in Eve. To be successful you need game knowledge. You can buy skill points via skill injectors but it won't make that much of a difference because what he really needs is time playing the game to learn the mechanics.

In Eve new players can play with long time vets on an even playing field. It's not like other MMOs with leveling mechanics and level caps and end game etc...

When I first started playing the game I was coaxed in by my cousin who had been playing for more than a year at the time that I started. Him and I ran missions together and he was on voice comms with me to answer my questions and explain things to me.

IMHO your friend is much better off playing with someone who knows more about the game than him. Not only do I think that having you to help explain things to him is better for him than you both starting fresh but I think that you should both look for even more experienced players to team up with.

I would also like to point out to your friend that there is no balanced content in Eve like there is in other games. In other games you have dungeons which are designed for characters of certain levels and capped at a specific number of players. You also have things like queueable PvP with fixed numbers of characters which are all of the same or similar level. None of that exists in Eve. You can run a mission on your own or you could run a mission with 1000 friends. You could engage in solo PvP and your opponent could have 20 of his friends join in the fight.

My main point is that your friends concerns are unfounded. Tell him to drop his expectations gotten from other MMOs and just give Eve a try. If he does not like the game there is nothing lost. It's a game. Just try it, if you like it keep playing if not then stop.

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