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Captain Campion
Campion Corp.
#1 - 2017-04-11 19:54:42 UTC  |  Edited by: Captain Campion
We've all flown to a mission destination and then realised we didn't accept the mission.

It's 2017, all the agents have email - there's no reason why we should have to commute to a physical place to accept a mission.

If you're concerned about the time bonus, just roll it into the reward - it's not worth the hassle.
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#2 - 2017-04-11 20:45:50 UTC
Captain Campion wrote:
We've all flown to a JITA and then realised we didn't WANT TO GO 5 JUMPS.

It's 2017, all the CITADELS have TELEPORT ABILITIES - there's no reason why we should have to commute to a physical place to SELL OUR GOODS.

We should be able to R-click and teleport our goods to any destination in space. Hauling is a waste of my precious time. I'm also lazy.



I did some minor tweeking of your whine... er..... complaint..... er..... idea. It should now make sense to everyone.

Players should also have mission loot expressed to their hangars. Ore too. Miners shouldn't be oppressed with all this wasteful hauling - it's ruining the game.




Huggs and Bunnies
Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2017-04-11 20:50:38 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
Captain Campion wrote:
We've all flown to a JITA and then realised we didn't WANT TO GO 5 JUMPS.

It's 2017, all the CITADELS have TELEPORT ABILITIES - there's no reason why we should have to commute to a physical place to SELL OUR GOODS.

We should be able to R-click and teleport our goods to any destination in space. Hauling is a waste of my precious time. I'm also lazy.



I did some minor tweeking of your whine... er..... complaint..... er..... idea. It should now make sense to everyone.

Players should also have mission loot expressed to their hangars. Ore too. Miners shouldn't be oppressed with all this wasteful hauling - it's ruining the game.




Huggs and Bunnies




I mean sure that might make sense if he was asking to teleport stuff all over the place.... not just... you know, use the telephone to say 'oh hey yeah I'll take that mission'

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal
Cade Windstalker
#4 - 2017-04-11 21:05:58 UTC
Except for, you know, the significant increase in mission rewards this would provide to a knowledgeable player... that's always a reason.
Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2017-04-11 21:09:14 UTC
Cade Windstalker wrote:
Except for, you know, the significant increase in mission rewards this would provide to a knowledgeable player... that's always a reason.




Roll

Because incursions haven't completely shot that argument in the foot.

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#6 - 2017-04-11 21:09:39 UTC
What's wrong with flying the prescribed jumps to get the reward? Is it too.... you know.... difficult?


You get stuff from completing the mission after you make the jumps and accept it. Just think of travelling there as just another part of getting the mission completed (because literally - it is).

I get it. Jumping around space from gate to gate isn't the most exciting part of Eve, but it does accomplish a few things.

1. It makes Eve a bigger place. If everything was accessible from your hangar the art team wouldn't be needed at all.
2. It provides player interaction points. It could be via wardec, ganking or just saying hello to a passer by.


waaaah, I don't want to be bothered with going a few jumps to accomplish a task is all I'm reading. It's a big galaxy out there - go be in it!
Cade Windstalker
#7 - 2017-04-11 21:15:25 UTC
Kenrailae wrote:
Cade Windstalker wrote:
Except for, you know, the significant increase in mission rewards this would provide to a knowledgeable player... that's always a reason.




Roll

Because incursions haven't completely shot that argument in the foot.


Incursions have a lot of cons that missions don't, and tons of people mission rather than Incursion as a result.

Incursions require that you rely on other people, and that someone take the time and effort to organize those people into a group that can do Incursions. Incursions also require moving around far more than Missions. It's also far more dangerous to run Incursions than to run Missions, both because of the more dangerous NPCs and because of the higher potential for player interference. You also often have to wait to start running Incursions, sometimes hours, due to the above requirement of organization and the limited number of groups.

If you could get Incursion level payout from Missions on your own without having to rely on anyone else then why would anyone ever run Incursions?

Incursions != Missions, and it's ridiculous to make such a claim.
Kenrailae
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2017-04-11 21:15:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Kenrailae
Serendipity Lost wrote:
What's wrong with flying the prescribed jumps to get the reward? Is it too.... you know.... difficult?


You get stuff from completing the mission after you make the jumps and accept it. Just think of travelling there as just another part of getting the mission completed (because literally - it is).

I get it. Jumping around space from gate to gate isn't the most exciting part of Eve, but it does accomplish a few things.

1. It makes Eve a bigger place. If everything was accessible from your hangar the art team wouldn't be needed at all.
2. It provides player interaction points. It could be via wardec, ganking or just saying hello to a passer by.


waaaah, I don't want to be bothered with going a few jumps to accomplish a task is all I'm reading. It's a big galaxy out there - go be in it!



What's wrong with it is it's an antiquated 'mechanic' that has long since been made redundant and just extra pain the ass for no particular reason other than to be a pain in the ass. It doesn't provide some unique content creation, it doesn't help moderate an otherwise broken income stream that is making and breaking the game on a daily basis, it doesn't make any sense from a lore perspective either. We're in spaceships..... do they not have radios? Or do you have to sign every contract in blood? Perhaps it may have been necessary before incursions, or some forgotten time when things could only be put in your hangar if you were there or some other nonsense, but it just doesn't fit anymore.


I can send 10 billion isk across the galaxy to whomever I want, whenever I want, for no reason, with no tracking, no checks, no 'hey is his legit?' but an agent can't deposit 5 million isk and 4k lp, or say 'Hey go for it'? I do not run missions at all.... but it's just an antiquated, redundant 'mechanic' that serves no purpose any longer, other than adding that extra degree of pain in the ass for the sake of adding an extra degree of pain in the ass, and nothing else.

The Law is a point of View

The NPE IS a big deal
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#9 - 2017-04-11 21:19:17 UTC
Kenrailae wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:
What's wrong with flying the prescribed jumps to get the reward? Is it too.... you know.... difficult?


You get stuff from completing the mission after you make the jumps and accept it. Just think of travelling there as just another part of getting the mission completed (because literally - it is).

I get it. Jumping around space from gate to gate isn't the most exciting part of Eve, but it does accomplish a few things.

1. It makes Eve a bigger place. If everything was accessible from your hangar the art team wouldn't be needed at all.
2. It provides player interaction points. It could be via wardec, ganking or just saying hello to a passer by.


waaaah, I don't want to be bothered with going a few jumps to accomplish a task is all I'm reading. It's a big galaxy out there - go be in it!



What's wrong with it is it's an antiquated 'mechanic' that has long since been made redundant and just extra pain the ass for no particular reason other than to be a pain in the ass. It doesn't provide some unique content creation, it doesn't help moderate an otherwise broken income stream that is making and breaking the game on a daily basis, it doesn't make any sense from a lore perspective either. We're in spaceships..... do they not have radios? Or do you have to sign every contract in blood? Perhaps it may have been necessary before incursions, or some forgotten time when things could only be put in your hangar if you were there or some other nonsense, but it just doesn't fit anymore.


I can send 10 billion isk across the galaxy to whomever I want, whenever I want, for no reason, with no tracking, no checks, no 'hey is his legit?' but an agent can deposit 5 million isk and 4k lp? I do not run missions at all.... but it's just an antiquated, redundant 'mechanic' that serves no purpose any longer, other than adding that extra degree of pain in the ass for the sake of adding an extra degree of pain in the ass, and nothing else.



Are you also in favor of ORE being mined directly to my hangar? Hauling ore has been 'just an extra pain in the ass for no particular reason other to be a pain in the ass' since the inception of the game. Give me an argument to keep ore hauling in the game.
Max Deveron
Deveron Shipyards and Technology
Citizen's Star Republic
#10 - 2017-04-12 07:43:58 UTC
Serendipity Lost wrote:
Kenrailae wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:
What's wrong with flying the prescribed jumps to get the reward? Is it too.... you know.... difficult?


You get stuff from completing the mission after you make the jumps and accept it. Just think of travelling there as just another part of getting the mission completed (because literally - it is).

I get it. Jumping around space from gate to gate isn't the most exciting part of Eve, but it does accomplish a few things.

1. It makes Eve a bigger place. If everything was accessible from your hangar the art team wouldn't be needed at all.
2. It provides player interaction points. It could be via wardec, ganking or just saying hello to a passer by.


waaaah, I don't want to be bothered with going a few jumps to accomplish a task is all I'm reading. It's a big galaxy out there - go be in it!



What's wrong with it is it's an antiquated 'mechanic' that has long since been made redundant and just extra pain the ass for no particular reason other than to be a pain in the ass. It doesn't provide some unique content creation, it doesn't help moderate an otherwise broken income stream that is making and breaking the game on a daily basis, it doesn't make any sense from a lore perspective either. We're in spaceships..... do they not have radios? Or do you have to sign every contract in blood? Perhaps it may have been necessary before incursions, or some forgotten time when things could only be put in your hangar if you were there or some other nonsense, but it just doesn't fit anymore.


I can send 10 billion isk across the galaxy to whomever I want, whenever I want, for no reason, with no tracking, no checks, no 'hey is his legit?' but an agent can deposit 5 million isk and 4k lp? I do not run missions at all.... but it's just an antiquated, redundant 'mechanic' that serves no purpose any longer, other than adding that extra degree of pain in the ass for the sake of adding an extra degree of pain in the ass, and nothing else.



Are you also in favor of ORE being mined directly to my hangar? Hauling ore has been 'just an extra pain in the ass for no particular reason other to be a pain in the ass' since the inception of the game. Give me an argument to keep ore hauling in the game.


he has a point actually.........
take a RL example if you would, you cant teleport your groceries from the store to your kitchen,
But the Bank can transfer your money to the vendor by use of your bank card, or as the vendor you get paid via....remotely.
perseus skye
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2017-04-12 12:44:04 UTC
Partially agree with your suggestion but could do with removing any time bonus if accepted this way and only for certain missions and not including any mission items you may need to courier etc