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Electromagnetic Shield
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2017-04-10 17:57:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Electromagnetic Shield
iv ran no less than 50 Soe level 1 missions and still cant run Level 2 missions for them my curent standing with soe is .65 and im at 3.0 with Bidiram Zaserkhareh the soe lvl 1 agent..


So my question is should i change agents are just keep runing lvl 1 missions for this person till i hit lvl 2 missions and why dose it take so many lvl 1 missions to get to lvl 2.


i already know how standing works.... i just dont no the best way i should be geting my standing up..
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#2 - 2017-04-10 18:06:17 UTC
Train the connections skill, at lv3 it allows you access to lv2s with something like 0.01 standing, which is less than one level 1 mission, if you are already at .65 it should only need to be lv 1 or 2

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Electromagnetic Shield
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2017-04-10 18:16:53 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
Train the connections skill, at lv3 it allows you access to lv2s with something like 0.01 standing, which is less than one level 1 mission, if you are already at .65 it should only need to be lv 1 or 2


Ok ill do that but Im trying to get to LVL 4 missions so i must ask dose all agents give the same standing to the corp per mission???
Keno Skir
#4 - 2017-04-10 18:46:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Keno Skir
Electromagnetic Shield wrote:
i already know how standing works.... i just dont no the best way i should be geting my standing up..


Well if you already know how it all works there's likely little point in telling you that it's your Combined Standing with every agent of a corporation that contributes to what missions you can access. This means that a corp with fewer agents like Supreme Court Law School (tip) is much faster to grind up than a corp with loads of agents like for instance Federation Navy. It also means that you either have to get your agent standing really high with one or two agents, or a little bit with each agent to raise the Combined Agent Standing. Beware though less agents in total means less available LvL4 agents later, so the quickest corp to grind standing for may not be the best one to grind standing for if you want to have many LvL4 agents to choose from in the end.

Electromagnetic Shield wrote:
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
Train the connections skill, at lv3 it allows you access to lv2s with something like 0.01 standing, which is less than one level 1 mission, if you are already at .65 it should only need to be lv 1 or 2


Ok ill do that but Im trying to get to LVL 4 missions so i must ask dose all agents give the same standing to the corp per mission???


Nah you do get more standing for higher lvl missions so you wont have to do thousands to get LvL4.

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Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2017-04-10 18:52:23 UTC
Train connections to at least lvl 4. If you are wanting to do any real amount of missioning it's damn near mandatory
Electromagnetic Shield
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#6 - 2017-04-10 19:34:36 UTC
Keno Skir wrote:
Electromagnetic Shield wrote:
i already know how standing works.... i just dont no the best way i should be geting my standing up..


Well if you already know how it all works there's likely little point in telling you that it's your Combined Standing with every agent of a corporation that contributes to what missions you can access. This means that a corp with fewer agents like Supreme Court Law School (tip) is much faster to grind up than a corp with loads of agents like for instance Federation Navy. It also means that you either have to get your agent standing really high with one or two agents, or a little bit with each agent to raise the Combined Agent Standing. Beware though less agents in total means less available LvL4 agents later, so the quickest corp to grind standing for may not be the best one to grind standing for if you want to have many LvL4 agents to choose from in the end.

Electromagnetic Shield wrote:
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
Train the connections skill, at lv3 it allows you access to lv2s with something like 0.01 standing, which is less than one level 1 mission, if you are already at .65 it should only need to be lv 1 or 2


Ok ill do that but Im trying to get to LVL 4 missions so i must ask dose all agents give the same standing to the corp per mission???


Nah you do get more standing for higher lvl missions so you wont have to do thousands to get LvL4.

Pirate


Ok kool soo ill run missions for all the soe agents then and then ill hit lvl 4 missions with them oyea
Electromagnetic Shield
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2017-04-10 19:35:22 UTC
Bjorn Tyrson wrote:
Train connections to at least lvl 4. If you are wanting to do any real amount of missioning it's damn near mandatory


OK thanks alot i got this on my que right now
Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#8 - 2017-04-10 19:53:53 UTC
Keno Skir wrote:
Electromagnetic Shield wrote:
i already know how standing works.... i just dont no the best way i should be geting my standing up..


Well if you already know how it all works there's likely little point in telling you that it's your Combined Standing with every agent of a corporation that contributes to what missions you can access. This means that a corp with fewer agents like Supreme Court Law School (tip) is much faster to grind up than a corp with loads of agents like for instance Federation Navy. It also means that you either have to get your agent standing really high with one or two agents, or a little bit with each agent to raise the Combined Agent Standing. Beware though less agents in total means less available LvL4 agents later, so the quickest corp to grind standing for may not be the best one to grind standing for if you want to have many LvL4 agents to choose from in the end.


I don't think there is much truth to grinding with different agents changing corp standings gain. Each mission has its own standings gain associated with it. "Harder" missions give larger gains and "easier" ones give smaller, difficulty is based on how long the average mission lasts.

I have heard you gain standing faster/slower depending on the size of the corp but I've never tested it as imo it is really easy to grind standings to begin with.

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Zarek Kree
Lunatic Legion Holdings
#9 - 2017-04-10 20:11:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Zarek Kree
Everyone has mentioned training up connections, but I also strongly recommend training up social as well. Connections increases your standings but social increases your standings gains from each completed mission - which in many ways is even more important when you're grinding standings. I'd recommend training social to 3 first, then go back and train connections to 3, followed by social to 4 and connections to 4.
Keno Skir
#10 - 2017-04-10 21:35:14 UTC
Chainsaw Plankton wrote:
Keno Skir wrote:
Electromagnetic Shield wrote:
i already know how standing works.... i just dont no the best way i should be geting my standing up..


Well if you already know how it all works there's likely little point in telling you that it's your Combined Standing with every agent of a corporation that contributes to what missions you can access. This means that a corp with fewer agents like Supreme Court Law School (tip) is much faster to grind up than a corp with loads of agents like for instance Federation Navy. It also means that you either have to get your agent standing really high with one or two agents, or a little bit with each agent to raise the Combined Agent Standing. Beware though less agents in total means less available LvL4 agents later, so the quickest corp to grind standing for may not be the best one to grind standing for if you want to have many LvL4 agents to choose from in the end.


I don't think there is much truth to grinding with different agents changing corp standings gain. Each mission has its own standings gain associated with it. "Harder" missions give larger gains and "easier" ones give smaller, difficulty is based on how long the average mission lasts.

I have heard you gain standing faster/slower depending on the size of the corp but I've never tested it as imo it is really easy to grind standings to begin with.


Well my information is dated by about 4 or 5 years, basically the last time i did missions. If standings still work the same as they did then, i am correct. The part of your post i have highlighted is explained in my post Pirate

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#11 - 2017-04-10 23:55:23 UTC
your post seems to imply running with agent a and b is faster than just running with agent a or b. there is no correlation between individual agent standing and corp standing that I'm aware of. The only thing that changes corp standing is the modification from completing missions, it shouldn't matter which agent it is with.

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mkint
#12 - 2017-04-11 01:51:16 UTC
Yeah, pretty sure the "combined standings" thing has never been true. When you get a fairly complex but obfuscated system like standings, a lot of myths and rumors crop up. So, [citation needed] on that claim. Devquote or it didn't happen.

@OP, really the only thing guaranteed that will help you is train social and connections. Social will increase your standings transactions going forward, connections will increase your effective standings. Social is more urgent so you aren't wasting time with each mission run, connections will have the biggest short term impact.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#13 - 2017-04-11 10:38:47 UTC  |  Edited by: Tau Cabalander
Agents were overhauled several years ago.

If you want to gain SoE standing, you need one agent of each level. No more. More than that is entirely optional.

Player factions are easier, as once you earn faction standing, that can take the place of NPC corp standing. i.e. I have >8 standing with Caldari, so I can run level 4 missions with any Caldari corp, even ones I've never run missions for before.

I chose SoE agents that were in systems that are as far away from lowsec as possible, so I didn't get sent on a mission to lowsec.
Keno Skir
#14 - 2017-04-11 10:58:17 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Agents were overhauled several years ago.


Cheers Tau. Am waiting on a support ticket to confirm what's changed anyway.

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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2017-04-11 11:01:55 UTC
The fastest way to gain access to level 4 missions is to run level 4 missions with a friend. If you are in fleet and they share the rewards at the end of each mission then you will gain agent standing much faster than corp standing. So in a very short amount of time you can gain access to that one agent. Then you can run missions with that one agent until you have access to other via corp of faction.

I know you did not ask about this but just a word of warning... Level 4 missions are no "end game" content. Eve is a sandbox and you have to constantly try out different stuff. If you just run missions all of the time you will get bored and burn out.

You can run missions for the rest of your Eve career, I'm not saying don't run missions. I'm just saying don't ONLY run missions. Mix some mission running here and there in with other activities that you enjoy and it won't seem like a grind. BTW in Eve if you are "grinding" or "working" towards something then you are playing the game wrong. Games should be fun not work IMHO.

I only went on my little rant after the advice because your post seemed to me like you were already getting bored with missions.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#16 - 2017-04-11 15:35:13 UTC
Keno Skir wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Agents were overhauled several years ago.


Cheers Tau. Am waiting on a support ticket to confirm what's changed anyway.

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Keno Skir
#17 - 2017-04-11 20:25:59 UTC
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Keno Skir wrote:
Tau Cabalander wrote:
Agents were overhauled several years ago.


Cheers Tau. Am waiting on a support ticket to confirm what's changed anyway.

Agents Made Easy


It's been a long day at work, but I can't see where that link makes mention of "agent standing" or it's absence Straight

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Chainsaw Plankton
FaDoyToy
#18 - 2017-04-11 20:37:43 UTC
Keno Skir wrote:
It's been a long day at work, but I can't see where that link makes mention of "agent standing" or it's absence Straight


agents used to have a quality level which made it easier to use an agent with low standings, CCP changed it so all agents would use the lowest standing requirement, this makes pretty much all agents easier to access. And high quality agents paid out more in mission rewards and LP, but now all agents pay out as if they were the highest quality.

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