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Predator BOA
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#1 - 2017-04-06 06:08:09 UTC
Gday all.

I've got a alternative Role bonus for the Sister Of Eve.

You have the 50% bonus to Medium Energy Turrets Optimal Range that really think about it, it's a useless bonus for these drone bouts.

What I'm thinking is more like a bonus to Speed of the drones like 25% to 50% bonus base speed to drones.

To Lights, Mediums and Heavy drones base speed.

Now I'm not referring to optimal range, but to the base drone speed.

Does this sound like a better role bonus to have on a Sister Of Eve ship?

Hope to get your idea's on this or if you ladies and gents have any better ones feel free to voice them here.

Kind Regards
Predator BOA

Predator BOA
Kenshin.
Fraternity.
#2 - 2017-04-06 06:14:41 UTC
Sorry I men't to say the topic of this is SOE not SEO , Sorry my bad.
Murkar Omaristos
The Alabaster Albatross
Unreasonable Bastards
#3 - 2017-04-07 02:07:46 UTC
Let me repeat: How about you don't **** with the stratios *****
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
#4 - 2017-04-07 06:28:30 UTC
To put it in a more mild way, the optimal range buff is meant to be uninspiring. Considering it can carry a CovOps cloak and bring as much firepower to a fight as it can, giving it a more powerful weapon's buff runs the risk of making it too OP'ed. The current buff allows you to get something out of energy weapons if you use them, ignore it without much fuss if you use something else, and CCP doesn't need to come in and de-fang it more. (hint: it was planned to have 125Mbit/sec drone bay back when it was in forum-feedback phase)

"Tomahawks?"

"----in' A, right?"

"Trouble is, those things cost like a million and a half each."

"----, you pay me half that and I'll hump in some c4 and blow the ---- out of it my own damn self."
Bjorn Tyrson
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2017-04-07 15:19:32 UTC
I said it in your last suggestion like this, and I'll say it again, the stratios is not intended to be a combat ship. it can hold its own against the right targets sure, but that is not its main function.
the bonuses give you options, you can fit it as an okay drone boat, or you can fit it as an okay laser sniper, that can covops cloak.

with drones being as OP as they are right now that choice is pretty one sided, but removing the laser bonus turns it from an "okay covops drone boat" into a "powerful covops drone boat" which was never its intended design.
Cade Windstalker
#6 - 2017-04-08 02:48:31 UTC
These are not supposed to be pure drone boats, they're mixed drone/laser boats. The fact that people don't bother to use the laser bonus is something of a moot point, these ships are already plenty powerful, we don't need a cloaky Ishtar.
Alderson Point
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2017-04-08 16:32:50 UTC
As I said on the other thread, we are at risk, If there are any improvements, of creating a situation where it gets Nerfed like the ishtar.

It really is currently a really nicely balanced ship, good at many things, but not pushing into overpowered territory.
Sure, Tiny tweaks would not hurt, but should those tweaks prove to be too good, then the ship will suffer when the response comes.

In short, leave it alone and enjoy flying a great ship.
Matthias Ancaladron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2017-04-09 00:53:55 UTC
Bjorn Tyrson wrote:
I said it in your last suggestion like this, and I'll say it again, the stratios is not intended to be a combat ship. it can hold its own against the right targets sure, but that is not its main function.
the bonuses give you options, you can fit it as an okay drone boat, or you can fit it as an okay laser sniper, that can covops cloak.

with drones being as OP as they are right now that choice is pretty one sided, but removing the laser bonus turns it from an "okay covops drone boat" into a "powerful covops drone boat" which was never its intended design.


Then why is it hogging the amarr/gal faction slot when it doesn't even look like an amarr or gallente inspired ship. Sad face.

We need an organic gold armor monster that's all beefy and GRRRRRRR-y
At least i need it.

But I don't have much experience with them.
How do they fair against sleepers?
I feel if soe is an exploration themed faction they should be race neutral and be proficient in all exploration including combat sites wormhole sites with sleepers. Ive seen them in regular deds buy not much point of a cloak, scan, and hack bonus if they can't get in and take on wormhole stuff.
But I don't know enough about them to know how that would fair there since I usually see bcs reccomended for c1 wormholes mentioned.
(Ties in to my above about them not seeming like a gallente or amarr themed group) I joke they're actually caldari. But exploration is a multi race profession so I don't see why it should be monopolized by one faction apart from the little exploration frigates.
Factions should mix the parents together into wacky combos. Not base profession ships.
Equivlant being if ore ships were minmatar and gallente or something. Why would a seemingly base profession like industry be faction tied. Exploration applies the same way.
Murkar Omaristos
The Alabaster Albatross
Unreasonable Bastards
#9 - 2017-04-09 01:20:40 UTC
Matthias Ancaladron wrote:
[quote=Bjorn Tyrson]
I feel if soe is an exploration themed faction they should be race neutral and be proficient in all exploration including combat sites wormhole sites with sleepers. Ive seen them in regular deds buy not much point of a cloak, scan, and hack bonus if they can't get in and take on wormhole stuff.


So you think you should be able to run wormhole combat sites in an astero? Are you a mental case?

Just leave SOE alone. With the exception of the nestor, the astero and stratios are probably two of the most well balanced ships in the game. They fit their role perfectly without needing any adjustment, and they are some of the most fun ships in the game. Rebalancing them would be a crime.