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Returning player hesitant

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Ajem Hinken
WarFear Gaming
#21 - 2017-03-22 20:37:37 UTC
Isanamo's a quiet 0.6 Caldari mining system. It's also close to Jita for shopping and other systems for missions. Two jumps from low security space as well.

You don't want trouble? Watch your back and try there.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6875494#post6875494 - Ship mounted explosives. Because explosions and Jita chaos.

Zirashi
Cyclical Destruction
#22 - 2017-03-22 20:53:11 UTC
Diantane wrote:

Elite Dangerous is a kid's game with horrible graphics


This guy...

Elite Dangerous has its shortcomings (boring/grindy gameplay, "always-online" single player mode, etc.), but graphics most certainly isn't one of them lmao. I'd say it's probably the one area that E:D is superior to EVE.

Anyway, EVE is "free to play" now (it's more of an unlimited trial than true F2P). If you want to see how the game is nowadays, log in and check for yourself.
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2017-03-22 21:59:45 UTC
Diantane wrote:
Have continued playing other mmo's and made countless high leveled, high geared characters.

IMHO this ^ right here is your main problem. Most other MMOs are all pretty much the same. They are all progression games. As long as you stick with them and do the PvE and grind your way to max level and grind your way up to or near "best in slot gear" you will do alright.

Eve is older than pretty much all of those other games so did not have to struggle with comparing it's self to them as they weren't even around yet. As such Eve is a very different MMO. This is not a PvE game. This is not a game where you grind levels or gear. This is a game that is all about two things: what you know and who you know.

I will link my obligitory Suitonia link here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de1hwoFYA_k&t=1s

The above link is a video of an experienced PvP pilot, solo roaming and pwning on a days old alt. This video pretty much proves that Eve is not a game about skill points or "gear" as he is flying a very low skill point character in very cheaply fit T1 ships.

There is a saying in eve that if you ever find yourself in a fair fight then something went horribly wrong on both sides. There is no queable regulated content in Eve and that is by design. You pick a fight with a small gang that you have out numbered and out gunned and they can instantly multiply their numbers in seconds. You can go from a 5 on 3 to a 5 on 30 in a matter of seconds. Of course you can do the same, so in that sense it's fair.

If you are looking for a game that is fair and / or decent then Eve is not the game for you. There are no fair fights in Eve and dirty play is not only allowed but encouraged.

If you want to enjoy Eve then I recommend that you drop all expectation that have been programmed into you by other games and come to Eve with fresh eyes and try out Eve for Eve. Don't play it as if it were like those other progression based MMOs with queable, fixed and balanced content because Eve has none of that.

If you insist on playing Eve as if it were those other MMOs then you will likely have a miserable time. If you can get used to learning from each loss and you enjoy challenge and can get used to the idea that ships are disposable tools very similar to ammo then you might enjoy Eve.

Want to talk? Join Cara's channel in game: House Forelli

ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#24 - 2017-03-23 02:47:14 UTC
Diantane wrote:


When my barge was mining all fittings were set for the highest yield or ore.

If you fit for max yield in high sec you are asking to be ganked. If you want to fit for max yield go to null sec and mine in a large fleet and watch intel.

Eve is a game about tradeoffs and having to make hard decisions and deal with the consequences. This is not a min / max where you are trying to get level capped or get Best In Slot gear.

The most tracked PvP statistic in this game is kill efficiency. That is the isk value of the ships that you've lost in PvP combat versus the isk value of ships that you have destroyed. That means Eve is very much about doing more with less from a "gear" perspective and also a game of playing the lame duck while you actually have a pack of wolves waiting on the other side of a gate waiting to jump through and deliver anal penetration.

If you want to min / max and sit in a PvP free zone and grind gear then Eve is not the game for you. If you want to challenge yourself and go up against the odds and sometimes still win, if getting better is more important than winning, Eve might be the game for you.

Want to talk? Join Cara's channel in game: House Forelli

Rias Bane
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#25 - 2017-04-07 13:29:36 UTC
Eve is like all MMO's in that you must accept that you alone do not control the events that have an impact upon you.

There are a couple of factors which have changed from when you played last;

The "Can Flipping" trick is a thing but it is not the same, where at the time if a player flipped your can they became hostile to your entire corporation meaning that any member could engage them but limited only to alliance and corp members, the mechanic has now changed and now gives what is called a suspect timer, this allows any player in the game to engage the "Suspect".

War Decs are still a thing but you could find a corp that has a standing arrangement with one of the hi sec merc groups to protect and not dec your corp or join a smaller corp with good activity levels and stick to quieter areas of space away from main trade hubs and busy traffic routes that are often traveled buy the more aggressive players.

Look in the recruitment threads for mining corps that are recruiting and speak to their recruiters, tap them up for advice even if you don't join their corps because it will be more contextual and most likely up to date.

There are quiet systems out there, I have an alt I run hi sec and low sec combat and relic/data sites with and I have a few systems that I always check because they are usually very quiet and less likely to have been farmed, the same applies to belts.

It would seem like you want to come back to Eve but that you are concerned about the same almost rejection like feeling of the last time, what I would suggest is; train the basic mining skills on that F2P character you created, chat in NPC corp chat and find a nice quiet place to mine, watch local and set your standings to known ganking corps/alliances so that if they come in local you can see them and dock for the brief time before they get bored.

Nothing ventured is nothing gained, you may only confirm your concerns at the cost of a little time, conversely you may discover the game you want, accepting it for all of it's risks and rewards.

Either way best of luck and fly safe.
Takh Meir'noen
24th Imperial Recon
#26 - 2017-04-07 20:49:34 UTC
Okay, everyone has seriously covered the basic tenets of EVE ad nauseum here, and I agree with the sentiment that it doesn't sound like the game for you.

But if you say you just want to have a relaxing time mining, HOW THE **** ARE YOU TOSSING OUT ELITE: DANGEROUS!?

When E:D first became a thing, I got in at the founder level; for $125 I would get the game and all expansions, ever, for life. I figured even if the game sucked why not. I periodically (usually after an expansion hits) jump on and fart around, and it's a fun game, just not one I can play long-term like EVE. If I could find a game with E:D controls/graphics, in EVEs player-driven world--holy **** I'd never come out of my computer room.

Anyway, E:Ds mining had to be the most relaxing thing I've ever done! flying through a LEGIT asteroid belt, firing sampling probes into promising rocks, finding a good one and literally blasting it with mining lasers, while deploying prospecting drones to grab the chunks you are blasting away and shuttle them into your cargo hold. If you are sitting too close to the asteroid, the chunks of the ore can literally BOUNCE off your ship. Like you HEAR IT clang off your ship.

Like, that's awesome.

And if you want a truly relaxing and fun time in a game, solo, then fit up an exploring ship and just go explore the galaxy in E:D.

Seriously, you sound like you (and your VFW buddies) would LOVE Elite: Dangerous. It's only PVP if you want it to be. You are only on a server with the people you want to be with. You can to combat, exploration, or "industry" (hauling/mining only) to your heart's content. You even get a little badge telling you how kick-ass you are at those three things. My problem with E:D is it feels grindy as **** after awhile.

But I still play it sometimes. These days I just hop in an explorer ship and just pick a star like 100 jumps away, and scan down every single celestial object I find. It's very relaxing and beautiful. Then I get on EVE to blow some ******* up.
Hazel TuckerTS
Doomheim
#27 - 2017-04-08 00:23:41 UTC
First off:
Thank you and you vfw friends for your military service.
Empyrion is a fun game in either mode and you can change settings to your liking.
Eve is ok but the broken record of pushing buttons and only being in a ship is boring.
Get creative try empyrion again, build, hunt, grow food or just mine.

kiss kiss bang bang

Nicola Romanoff
Phoenix Connection
#28 - 2017-04-10 10:41:23 UTC
Eve has changed massively as a game in the last 10 years but people are still able to gank you if they want to in high sec (or anywhere else for that matter).

If you do mining just to relax you, then fit for tank not for yield. I used to bait in a procurer, I had a web, scram, combat drones and tank etc but fit strip miners to actually mine, that part of the game cn be quite fun.

Also find a high sec system away from the main trade hubs and their routes, whilst not completely safe you will be safer. Be aware of your surroundings and who is in local etc.

If you stay in an NPC corp yuo cannot get wardecced either, but when you were in that corp you should of haad a mail stating the corp had been decced, nothing much you can do about that accept not present yourself as a target so the dec goes away quickly

Good luck.
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