Player Features and Ideas Discussion

DUST didn't work, because people didn't shoot planets a whole lot or whatever. Okay.

How about if EVE was more dangerous? Specifically: ISK transfers. They've always been sacred for some reason. You can never see who sent money to who, without an API key. This allows a lot of meta gaming. And it's always been this way.

Why is this sacred? More importantly, should this be sacred?

(Obviously, RL money transfers should not be exposed in any way.)


So. Have Nova suck money out of EVE. Players can bounty the transaction information of other players. And players can put add/remove money from a fund to protect their information. Both are entirely optional.

Nova players would play maps, influenced by this money, with bonuses and penalties of the attack and defense funds. (There should always be a baseline defense, just NPC-funded standard stuff, even if people don't put money into extra defenses of themselves.)

Data raids.

The reward for this lost money would be information and secrecy. If you keep your defense well-funded, the Nova players will rarely succeed in a raid, and if they do, they probably won't get much data. If the attacker dumps a lot of money in, and the defender doesn't buy any extra militia, they might be able to peek at a few of the defenders business transactions, randomly selected.

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Related semi-separate idea: cash. Items that are purchased and sold, tax-free, in all NPC stations, for converting bank-balance ISK into items which can be carried in a cargo hold. Where you can carry them around and trade them, without revealing who you are funding. Downside is: they can be lost and stolen, unlike wallet ISK.

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This would cause... probably a fair bit of chaos, I believe.

• It would be quite easy to find out who funded this sock puppet, for instance.
• Spammers and scammers in Jita? You could data-raid them and harass them on their mains.
• Or, just cost them money on defense at the very least.
• You could find rat rewards and know where people are ratting.
• You could find the PVE char that funds a PVP char who decided to bother you, and go make the PVE character do some PVP as well.
• VERY hardcore market PVP.

Corporations could get a fund they could dump money into, to protect their members, which would donate a configurable amount towards the defense of data raids.

And it's asynchronous. Devs don't have to realtime coordinate two entirely separate games, EVE just shoots a database over to Nova, who runs matches. Then Nova shoots back the results to EVE, and EVE decides if any data is given to the requester, and if so, how much of the data. A simple spreadsheet, very possibly only partial. ISK, contract info, perhaps other things that would make sense for a highly illegal black-ops raid to collect on the semi-gods who rampage around the stars.

And I tried to supply a partial out, as well: people can carry cash around instead. Which might just wind up in a killmail.

But for this, nobody would be quite as safe, even docked in a station and offline, but it still won't blow up stuff without help.

Of course cash is a stupid idea. As long as wallets are perfectly private.

If your transfers weren't guaranteed to be private, though, dropping cash off in a secure can would be a means of transferring ISK with some privacy. All anyone would see would be "purchased 100m cash" if the wallet transfer was uncovered via whatever means, because wallets don't track cargo movement.

Sorry, I thought that was obvious.

Still, in-station trading would create a trade for 0 ISK with a name on the other end, so if that showed up in captured logs, you would STILL know funds passed between two characters.

Management of the thing would be simple, you just dump ISK into a fund and hope that rich people don't dump way more. If you need ISK and it hasn't been used in raid defense, you can pull it back out.

If no ISK is in the fund, data raids against you would receive a base level of funding, representing the security forces that the stations have on hand.

CCP should definitely track cash transfers internally, to prevent RMT. But it would never be exposed to data raids, because that's RL matters.

DUST required full synchronization between everything, orbital strikes, special ammo and all that stuff.

This is completely different, like I said: databases and data tossed back and forth, and timing isn't an issue. DUST gets missions that matter, instead of just automatically generated stuff. EVE gets financial data exposed, which is kind of a crazy idea.

The likelihood of getting useful intel on players in general is low, and likely to not be useful. This isn't about easy info and easy kills, it's about getting a log, carefully examining it, and finding one lucky entry that tells you something very juicy.

What else would be good? Anything ISK-positive will be spammed, and anything that's a loss will be ignored.