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Buying / selling and having to unload a ship

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Joe Talsend
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2017-04-02 17:05:43 UTC
As a new player I wonder if anyone else has come across this issue:

I have a lot of loot from rat fights and missions left over and want to start selling it. So I load up one of my ships and then start traveling. The only way to sell is to off load the content to the hangar of a space station. So inadvertently along the way I happen to be at star base C, which is lets say 4 jumps from the last place I was selling my items, only to realize that my items as still at star base B. 8 jumps and a coffee later I am back to star base C having to unload my ship again.

Was there a reason (game wise) for this mechanic? Am I wrong to ask why it should be necessary to unload and reload a ship every time I want to sell?

Does anyone actually find that feature fun?

-JT
Zarek Kree
Lunatic Legion Holdings
#2 - 2017-04-02 17:39:18 UTC
I'm not sure I properly understand the situation you're describing. If you're selling your cargo in different stations, you can offload just the cargo you want to sell in the station you're in and leave the rest onboard.

I've certainly left items behind in a station before, but they were usually items that I purchased from the market and forgot to load.
Joe Talsend
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2017-04-02 18:04:59 UTC
I must be missing a game mechanic here.

So do most people just select all and reprocess their items only keeping the "good ones" to sell? I have a ship full of junk, I don't intend to cherry pick the items that might be possible to sell to each particular station. That would just take too long.

-JT
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#4 - 2017-04-02 18:11:22 UTC  |  Edited by: Do Little
Mistakes have consequences in Eve. If you forget to load your cargo - you need to go back and get it. It happens to all of us.

Generally the ship you choose to haul cargo to market will not be the same as the ship you use for ratting - it does not seem unreasonable to me that you should need to transfer cargo from your warship to your cargo ship.

Nor is it reasonable to expect the game to automatically move stuff from your hangar to your ship when you are ready to go to market. Some of us have a mix of things in our hangars - stuff we want to sell and stuff we want to keep. How can the game tell them apart?
Zarek Kree
Lunatic Legion Holdings
#5 - 2017-04-02 18:17:04 UTC
No...going from trade hub to trade hub is definitely not efficient when selling a bunch of junk items. Some people do some cost/benefit analysis between selling and reprocessing, but I've never been a big fan of that either. I load up my salvage items into my ship, drive to a trade hub (usually Jita), offload them into the station, select all and hit sell. You should only have to remember to load it one time. And I don't see any alternative those mechanics.

Or maybe I'm still not understanding where you're having issues. I suspect you are missing a mechanic of some kind because it's not a complicated process at all.
ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2017-04-02 18:43:49 UTC
as has been pointed out already how you deal with loot is a very personal thing. Everyone has their own way of doing it.

The important things that I feel need to be pointed out here are:

-There is nothing forcing you to loot. In fact it is usually more profitable to speed run missions and leave the loot, especially in high sec where MTUs typically get scanned down and blown up.

-You can roll up into your nearest trade hub and just unload everything and sell all of it to the highest buy order, which is fairly easy.

-You can leave all of your loot in the station that you collected it at and create a contract for all of it and let someone else worry about what to do with it. You will have to make the contract cheap enough that someone else will be willing to buy the stuff for profit reason if you pick this option.

-There are tools like eve-central.com that can help you estimate the value of items

-if you select a bunch of items and get a reprocessing quote, most of the items that are worth selling rather than melting will be flagged as such.

Bottom line is that this is a game and a game with no set play methodology. It's a sandbox and as such I recommend that if you are not enjoying a certain aspect of the game that you not participate in it. Some of us are loot whores and love sorting through the stuff and others are not. That is fine. The market gives us all many options for doing what we want and not doing what we don't want.

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Joe Talsend
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2017-04-02 20:14:23 UTC
@Zarek Kree, Thank you. That makes a lot of sense.

I also just figured out repackaging. For the longest time I was confused why I couldn't sell scavenged loot. If its damaged or not repackaged it cannot be sold until both are taken care of. Now I just do a select all, repackage, sort all.

It is interesting how reprocessing vs sell can change the price. In the case of a few items it was almost double the difference.

I guess I will just change my approach until they create dock worker bots that charge a tax to sell your items from your active ship directly.

- JT

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2017-04-03 03:25:29 UTC
I loot and salvage all wrecks, then take everything to my main Base Of Operations and save all high value items. All the low value items are checked for sell price verses reprocess price and then I go with whichever one is higher.

I save all of the minerals and salvage items to use later for production. All of the high value items are saved to fit on ships in the future. If I don't have any use for the items, I then sell those on the Market.

Probably a good idea to just stockpile the loot and salvage items at various stations. Then once every couple of months just take an Industrial Hauler ship and go collect up all the items and transport them to your main Base Of Operations or major Trade Hub to sell.



DMC
Kathern Aurilen
#9 - 2017-04-03 06:28:49 UTC
Joe Talsend wrote:
I must be missing a game mechanic here.

So do most people just select all and reprocess their items only keeping the "good ones" to sell? I have a ship full of junk, I don't intend to cherry pick the items that might be possible to sell to each particular station. That would just take too long.

-JT

I keep all the thing I want to sell in a different station than the stuff I'm going to reprocess the junks that's not selling well. I check the prices as I'm unloading my salvage. I'm saving up all that junk till my skills get up to make reprocessing worth while. Every now and then I see what I can recover compared to the buy orders.

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MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#10 - 2017-04-04 15:58:54 UTC
I just pile all the junk up in a corner until I run out of isk. I then go dump most of it at a trade hub taking advantage of the 'sell all' feature. I know I could make a lot more isk spending time sorting through it all, but usually I have better things to do. I want to blow stuff up and explore, not run an interstellar garage sale.

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Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy
Caldari State
#11 - 2017-04-04 16:35:58 UTC
My approach when exploring is to only do 1 wormhole/system
then I fly to nearest Hisec station and sell all.

Sounds tedious but that way I dont lose so much in case of
somebody jumping me.

I usually could earn more searching for proper trade hubs.

I see Eve as gambling game. The more jumps and bigger
cargo value the bigger risk of losing it all.

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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
#12 - 2017-04-04 18:59:40 UTC
I have a filter. If the item is less than 100,000 ISK ir gets reprocessed,

Then I look at the remaining items. Some items, like smartbombs, are only purchased at there material cost, so they get reprocessed too.

What remains I sell based on quality. Some memory work here, i.e. 'scout' or 'prototype' will sell where the lesser items won't. Typically use the comparison tool, and sort the items. The ones with the larger bonuses and lowest fitting requirements are the ones worth selling.
Keno Skir
#13 - 2017-04-05 12:26:27 UTC
I let the junk pile up in stations, then when a station pile gets big enough to be worth investigating i make a courier contract for all of it to Jita or another main trade hub. The contract usually costs me about 3-5% the value of the loot. When it arrives at the trade hub i select all, repair, then select all and repackage. Quick check to filter out high value blingy loot. Finally select everything (except some blingy stuff) and go to SELL ALL. Anything that doesn't sell is reprocessed until all that's left is broken laser crystals. Trash the rest and job done, back to shooting things.

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MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#14 - 2017-04-05 17:58:49 UTC
I am starting a pile of Heavy Defender Missiles, I thin kI might turn them in to a throne.

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Sara Starbuck
Adamantine Creations
#15 - 2017-04-06 03:06:10 UTC
Just pile up the junk to container on the missionbase until you are moving elsewhere or it really piles up too high, then just haul the container to one of the 4 or so tradehubs and sell the stuff, and ye reprocessing most of the junk is the easiest way, theres always buy orders for market value for minerals. There are web pages/programs to count which items have good reprocessing values and which dont, but generally its way too much hassle to cherrypick hundreds of items. Tau listed the most wanted meta3-4 weapons which are valuable, there are some others but big part of the junk is just that, junk.