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Alpha bots lowering the value of LP.

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ISD Chanisa Nemes
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#101 - 2017-03-30 18:45:10 UTC
Okay guys, look...

There has been a lot of bickering in this thread. I get that you all have very strong opinions on the subject but if a constructive discussion and debate is to continue, everyone has to respect each other and stop throwing insults all over. This goes for everyone. I will continue to monitor this thread so everyone, be nice.


And here's a cute puppy gif so we can all feel better and move on <3
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ISD Chanisa Nemes

Lieutenant

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

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Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#102 - 2017-03-31 03:14:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Andrew Indy
NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote:

What part did you disagree with?


I know this is not aimed at me but here we go.

NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote:

I guess it depends on what you view as problematic. Do you believe that if someone is able to cheat and earn LP effortlessly, while others do it legit, that it is unfair to those players who earn LP legit, and thus becomes problematic for those players?


Yes, People cheating is a problem.

NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote:

Can they lower the value of LP for some players without crashing the market?


Technically if a lot of people are cheating in that way it may affect the Value of LP.

NofriendNoLifeStilPostin wrote:

If you say yes to these questions, then i think you do totally agree with me.

It may not be a significant problem for a lot of people, but it is still a problem for some people. And we seem to be thinking of this only in terms of how it effects other players and ignoring the fact that players are breaking the EULA and cheating.

Most of the commenters seem to be thinking of things only pertaining their own perspective, rather than how this effects others.


Agreeing with the first 2 does not mean that someone agrees with your solution to the problem or that the problem is as big as you suggest. (IE I'm sure that we would all agree that its possible that a meteorite could hit the earth and kill everyone, does not mean that everyone would agree to spending a huge amount of money making a system to help prevent it)

Firstly, you say that cheaters are affecting legit players, what about legit Alphas who run Legit Lvl4 courier missions. Your solution would nerf their game play as well. As well as any Alpha that is doing anything that involves the ships affected.

Secondly from the research that I did, the value of LP does not seem to have dropped drastically if at all which means it may very well not be affecting the people you say it is. Why nerf a legit play style to help people that are not being adversely affected.

Thirdly, if the things they are doing is against the EULA then those responsible should be targeted using the terms in that agreement. If people Bot in X ship or Mine in Y ship you would not nerf the ships into the ground right? Same could be said here.

And Finally, if you kill this game play why would the botters not just move to Lvl3 missions, sure they are lower Isk but as you said you can have an unlimited number of accounts doing it 23.5/7 so who cares.

In closing most people are not bastards, Some things are easy say like killing someone but that does not mean that everyone is doing it.
Professor Sternu Tarantoga
Queens of the Drone Age
#103 - 2017-03-31 12:06:59 UTC
After I googled the topic I came to the conclusion that this thread is a good marketing stunt, if that was the the OP's intention or not. You may add: “Filthy rich cargo mission runners hate me for telling you..”
guigui lechat
the no fock given
#104 - 2017-03-31 12:09:16 UTC
Professor Sternu Tarantoga wrote:
After I googled the topic I came to the conclusion that this thread is a good marketing stunt, if that was the the OP's intention or not. You may add: “Filthy rich cargo mission runners hate me for telling you..”

made me laugh :)

"Filthy rich cargo mission runners will hate me for letting this ancestral secret escape"
Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#105 - 2017-04-04 04:22:14 UTC
guigui lechat wrote:
Professor Sternu Tarantoga wrote:
After I googled the topic I came to the conclusion that this thread is a good marketing stunt, if that was the the OP's intention or not. You may add: “Filthy rich cargo mission runners hate me for telling you..”

made me laugh :)

"Filthy rich cargo mission runners will hate me for letting this ancestral secret escape"


"3 easy step to becoming a filthy rich cargo mission runner you will never believe"
Acher0n Hades
Queens of the Drone Age
#106 - 2017-04-04 09:08:38 UTC
Andrew Indy wrote:
guigui lechat wrote:
Professor Sternu Tarantoga wrote:
After I googled the topic I came to the conclusion that this thread is a good marketing stunt, if that was the the OP's intention or not. You may add: “Filthy rich cargo mission runners hate me for telling you..”

made me laugh :)

"Filthy rich cargo mission runners will hate me for letting this ancestral secret escape"


"3 easy step to becoming a filthy rich cargo mission runner you will never believe"


I am a Minmatar prince and want to move a billion cargo mission loyalty points from Minmatar space to Caldari space. You can have 10% of the LP if you help me move them, but I need 500 Mil. ISK to pay the taxes in advance.

There are also Minmatar damsels that want to marry you because of your good looking Avatar, you just have to pay for the flight and paperwork.
Piugattuk
Litla Sundlaugin
#107 - 2017-04-05 02:05:25 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Hmmm...

I hadnt realizedf how capable hauler alphas can be with the T1 industrials.

Much less that they can farm LP like this.


Dang your character looks like Evan Jonigkeit from the Netflix mini series Frontier.


http://imgur.com/JXHDE5C