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I want the Ingame Browser back!!!

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Chris Wagi
Voices of War - Research and Production
Sigma Grindset
#1 - 2017-04-04 02:36:22 UTC
I want back the ingame Browser!!!

its a mess to ALT-Tab around the screen!!!
Cade Windstalker
#2 - 2017-04-04 02:38:24 UTC
Know what else is a mess? Getting your account/computer/tax information back because someone stuffed an Eve website full of malicious code and the Eve browser hasn't had a meaningful security patch in two years.
Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#3 - 2017-04-04 02:51:59 UTC
- Eve online

- Remove Stuff
- Nurf the game
- Sell SP/ISK to make profit
- FTP (for getting more kills to boost up marketing and so old fappers have something to do in this game like gate camping everywhere)
- Make it "Casual" all for the greater good

Nope CCP will continue this patch. And fingers cross the are not staying at this rampage patch!
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
ISD Alliance
#4 - 2017-04-04 04:12:43 UTC
You COULD get a second monitor, window eve, and not even have to bother alt tabbing.

ISD Dorrim Barstorlode

Senior Lead

Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)

Interstellar Services Department

DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2017-04-04 04:38:50 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
I agree with the OP. And for those who say the IGB allowed your computer to be susceptible to malicious code, I say get a better security program for your computer.

I use to play Eve in full windowed mode and due to CCP removing the IGB, I now have to play the game in windowed mode so I can access my out of game Internet Browser. Don't particularly like having my computer work harder by having my browser open to access Eve related info needed to play this game.

When the IGB was active in-game, I used it extensively to reference Eve-Survival and Evelopedia for information. All links to Evelopedia opened in the IGB so any danger of contracting malicious code was negligible. Along with removing the IGB, Evelopedia was another bad removal decision by CCP.



DMC
Teckos Pech
Hogyoku
Goonswarm Federation
#6 - 2017-04-04 05:43:40 UTC
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
You COULD get a second monitor, window eve, and not even have to bother alt tabbing.


Or 3 or even 4...is 5 too many?

"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek

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Kia Heaven
We Are Clowns
#7 - 2017-04-04 06:25:50 UTC
Well, you can actually add EvE as a non-Steam game and use the Steam overlay which includes a fully functional browser.
Nana Skalski
Taisaanat Kotei
EDENCOM DEFENSIVE INITIATIVE
#8 - 2017-04-04 06:57:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Nana Skalski
I have one monitor (1920x1080) and I am playing EVE in fixed window. Alt tabing works smoother and I can see EVE window in the background, while I have firefox window resized to see local, local chat, ship health bars and modules and drones window and bit of overview. I have DevEdition theme enabler installed in the firefox, it gives it look slightly similar to default EVE color theme.

Maybe you could try that too? I like that for myself.
Chewytowel Haklar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2017-04-04 07:25:52 UTC
But they banned Casino's, so no reason to have IGB anymore Roll
Elmund Egivand
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2017-04-04 07:30:38 UTC
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
You COULD get a second monitor, window eve, and not even have to bother alt tabbing.


Or use Overwolf Overlay?

A Minmatar warship is like a rusting Beetle with 500 horsepower Cardillac engines in the rear, armour plating bolted to chassis and a M2 Browning stuck on top.

Alexander Bor
Polaris Global
#11 - 2017-04-04 10:16:38 UTC
Chris Wagi wrote:
I want back the ingame Browser!!!

its a mess to ALT-Tab around the screen!!!


It is not safe. The wise decision of CCP to remove it.
Aves Asio
#12 - 2017-04-04 11:50:29 UTC
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
You COULD get a second monitor, window eve, and not even have to bother alt tabbing.


Would you be so kind to buy me a second monitor?
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2017-04-04 11:53:30 UTC
Alexander Bor wrote:
Chris Wagi wrote:
I want back the ingame Browser!!!

its a mess to ALT-Tab around the screen!!!


It is not safe. The wise decision of CCP to remove it.

Seems a lot of people keep saying that and in my 8+ years of playing this game I've never heard of anyone contracting a virus or having a security breach on their computers due to the IGB.

I think CCP removed it for the same reason they removed the in-game jukebox and for the same reason they removed the Evelopedia and for the same reason they're removing these forums.

It's all about downsizing their server's expenditures.


DMC
Linus Gorp
Ministry of Propaganda and Morale
#14 - 2017-04-04 12:22:32 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
And for those who say the IGB allowed your computer to be susceptible to malicious code, I say get a better security program for your computer.

As someone that actually does understand something about ITSec, your advice is utter bullshit at best and it doesn't fix anything about the underlying problem.

When you don't know the difference between there, their, and they're, you come across as being so uneducated that your viewpoint can be safely dismissed. The literate is unlikely to learn much from the illiterate.

Cade Windstalker
#15 - 2017-04-04 12:28:00 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Seems a lot of people keep saying that and in my 8+ years of playing this game I've never heard of anyone contracting a virus or having a security breach on their computers due to the IGB.

I think CCP removed it for the same reason they removed the in-game jukebox and for the same reason they removed the Evelopedia and for the same reason they're removing these forums.

It's all about downsizing their server's expenditures.


DMC


I have, there used to be a certain class of Jita spammer (probably still is for all I know) that would spam links to malicious websites. There were never very many of them and they tended to get perma-banned pretty quickly, but they definitely existed.

Stuff like the IGB, Jukebox, and Evelopedia were removed not because of serve expense but because of the cost in dev time. All of these things suck fairly large amounts of dev time to keep curated and working relative to their benefit to the community. The Jukebox and IGB are both client side, they cost zero server time. The Evelopedia doesn't cost nearly as much in server resources as you might think, being a static website, it was just a mess for CCP to keep up to date and curated.

Oh and as for the idea that you can just "get a better security program" just no, that's not how any of this works. The whole point of a vulnerability is that it gets someone around your firewall and your anti-virus, and if the attacker is remotely clever about it they can then disable or hobble them so whatever they've done won't be detected. Assuming they've even done something, rather than just running some malicious code in the IGB without actually installing anything permanent. It can just sit there and scrape passwords or whatever and nothing will show up on your next virus scan.

The idea that something as old and held together with duct tape as the IGB could have its security concerns removed just by running AV software is ridiculous.
Daemun Khanid
Corbeau de sang
#16 - 2017-04-04 12:45:01 UTC
There are "always on top" utilities that allow you to keep your browser window open just like if you were using IGB. Just set it up and size it where you want it. While I do hate to see game elements removed for streamlining (looking at you advanced audio settings) the IGB was destined for the graveyard. A game developer should be spending time on gameplay not constantly updating compatability and security on a web browser.

Daemun of Khanid

Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#17 - 2017-04-04 13:47:37 UTC
Aves Asio wrote:
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
You COULD get a second monitor, window eve, and not even have to bother alt tabbing.


Would you be so kind to buy me a second monitor?


#NoPoors
Lulu Lunette
Savage Moon Society
#18 - 2017-04-04 15:20:41 UTC
It's dead, Jim.

Eve requires a second monitor anyway

@lunettelulu7

grin man
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#19 - 2017-04-04 15:28:13 UTC
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode wrote:
You COULD get a second monitor, window eve, and not even have to bother alt tabbing.



Oh so i will be able to right click on dotlan and set destination on this second monitor?
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#20 - 2017-04-04 15:49:15 UTC
there whole reason for removing IGB wasn't because of security at all. the sole comment given for its removal is

"it's too much work to keep it updated"

over the years CCP has proved a to shun as much work as they can because something's too much or programming is hard

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith

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