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[May] CONCORD Aerospace Promotional Ships

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Vatik Yomem
Sing to Me
#41 - 2017-04-02 00:15:42 UTC
Crimson Draufgange wrote:
WTB Picture for the Marshall BLOPs!


AFAIK it's the current regular CONCORD Battleship model, super excited.

CCP Fozzie wrote:
After a limited period of timed exclusivity these ships will become available again in the future through other special promotions.


Seriously? Hopefully not only events as I'm to poor to go to them and too dumb to RMT ;_;
Lug Muad'Dib
Funk'in Hole
#42 - 2017-04-02 00:24:30 UTC
Really hope it's a joke..
Aleverette
Bag ol' Dciks
#43 - 2017-04-02 00:31:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Aleverette
CCP Fozzie wrote:
They have significantly more slots than is usual for their class.



Then the Enforcer has 4M4L and the Pacifier has 4/4/4 which is as same as a jaguar.
WTF CCP, these ships are not P2W, instead they are P2L.


If their flexbility is a truly strength, then they should have extra slots, especially high. No drone bay is already a pain in the ass for players who want to fly in these ships.


Give Enforcer 7/5/5 and the Pacifier 6/4/4.
Crazy Vania
EM Program for Training and Youth
#44 - 2017-04-02 00:37:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Crazy Vania
Quote:
After a limited period of timed exclusivity these ships will become available again in the future through other special promotions.


This is the only part in the dev-blog that I don't like.

While I'm not going to own one of these since I'm not able to go to Fanfest, I would very much prefer that you guys keep these ships limited edition.

After the most cursory examination of these hulls, it's pretty clear that they are completely overpowered. This is fine. There are already plenty of (clearly) overpowered ships in Eve, they are called "Tournament ships".

The reason we don't really care that they exist is their limited edition status makes them a non-issue in the meta. You either never see one in your life, or you see one and then kill it using a 100 man blops fleet and have a good laugh about it.

I would prefer never seeing one of these concord hulls in space. I would prefer never having to buy one to be "in" the meta, and finally, I would love it if they cost so much that killing one is a rare, joyous occasion, instead of a reflection on power creep.

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TL:DR, without limiting the amount of hulls, these ships will be the disaster equivalent of the Gecko for ship balance.
Djorum
Negative Transversal
#45 - 2017-04-02 00:51:43 UTC
CCP Fozzie wrote:

  • Pilots with high security status will gain an extra bonus to armor repairer and shield booster effectiveness


    • Pretty crappy mechanic. Unless you enjoy getting punished for using your ship, will be restricted to null sec.
    Victor Fabre
    Avem c Ed X
    #46 - 2017-04-02 00:58:26 UTC
    Aleverette wrote:
    "They have significantly more slots than is usual for their class"

    And the Enforcer has 4M4L
    WTF CCP

    Give it 6M6L



    That might be a bit much but is 6/5/5 to much to ask for?
    light heaven
    JUST SET TIMES
    #47 - 2017-04-02 01:31:42 UTC
    enforcer slot should be 655 as pacifier and marshal have more slot than its t2 class.
    Lijja Cuu
    Doomheim
    #48 - 2017-04-02 01:53:13 UTC
    Johnny Twelvebore wrote:
    Dear CCP, if these ships are allowed in AT you have just doomed all our pilots to somehow getting (and keeping) a plus five sec status. Your chances of getting a beer from any of them at the next meetup may have declined somewhat:)


    Get the ships and get your rat on...sec status ez

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    Grath Telkin
    Amok.
    Goonswarm Federation
    #49 - 2017-04-02 02:03:17 UTC
    lol at all the randy low sec guys

    Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
    Lura Zara
    Worlds Without Boundaries Special Forces
    #50 - 2017-04-02 04:46:57 UTC
    I'm sorry CCP, But making these ships as "Offer exclusives" Only... makes zero sense at all. We dont need rare ships. We need interesting ships that are balanced and replaceable.

    If you put them as Concord LP obtainable for high prices after the 'exclusive' period. That would make the most sense. I'm not saying to make them affordable. I'm saying they should be /replaceable/. Even if expensive.
    Aleverette
    Bag ol' Dciks
    #51 - 2017-04-02 05:20:39 UTC
    Victor Fabre wrote:
    Aleverette wrote:
    "They have significantly more slots than is usual for their class"

    And the Enforcer has 4M4L
    WTF CCP

    Give it 6M6L



    That might be a bit much but is 6/5/5 to much to ask for?



    Yeah, I realized 6M6L would be too much, 7/5/5 is a much better combination.
    Aleverette
    Bag ol' Dciks
    #52 - 2017-04-02 05:24:01 UTC
    Plus, what about players with sec status higher than 5.0?

    There are a few 10.0 ancient prophets left among us.
    100% boost/repair bonus, wow.
    Squizz Caphinator
    The Wormhole Police
    #53 - 2017-04-02 05:48:08 UTC
    This feels very much like the "Good Alignment" in Trade Wars with boosting based on sec. status. <3 the Imperial Starship

    Will there be boosters on future ships based on those with negative sec status, aka, evil alignment?

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    F4bske
    Mining Industry Exile Foundation
    Synergy of Steel
    #54 - 2017-04-02 11:05:58 UTC
    I was very excited for the Concord ships to be announced. But it turns out you decided to turn them into niche ships that are hard to obtain (which alone is fine), but also incredibly hard to make use of. I would love to see more ships like the Guristas, Sansha, Serpentis or Angel lineup. The Concord ships are vanity items without any real use beside beeing a shiny toy and amusing me at 6 AM doing fits for them and laughing at their awful stats even for Covops. The Frigate is an Astero, the Cruiser is a Covops Stabber and seriously underpowered/tanked, the Battleship seems workable but is as scary as a Nestor. Please fix the Cruiser and the next time you have ships to design please make something that we can use more than 2 times a year and do not include covops cloak. ty.
    Advenat Bedala
    Facehoof
    #55 - 2017-04-02 13:38:59 UTC
    I have 3 hopes about this ships:
    1) You'll use current ingame CONCORD ship design and pictures from devpost are 1st april joke

    2) This ships will be accessible from pure ingame sources like CONCORD LP or drifter wormholes. NOT real money

    3) frigate and battleship stats are advents of covert ops and black ops tiercide
    Mai Khumm
    172.0.0.1
    #56 - 2017-04-02 14:05:37 UTC
    Advenat Bedala wrote:

    1) You'll use current ingame CONCORD ship design and pictures from devpost are 1st april joke

    Nope, those are the ship models. Even the Shuttle has a new model!
    Advenat Bedala wrote:

    2) This ships will be accessible from pure ingame sources like CONCORD LP or drifter wormholes. NOT real money

    Once again, NOPE! The only current means to get them is to go to BOTH Fanfest and EVE Vegas. Future promotions will involve IRL cash... Welcome to PAY TO WIN!
    Advenat Bedala wrote:

    3) frigate and battleship stats are advents of covert ops and black ops tiercide

    Nope, standalone faction variants of both. Suppose to be slightly OP variants!


    ...wow, you got screwed 3 ways here!
    Arcturus Ursidae
    Federal Defense Union
    Gallente Federation
    #57 - 2017-04-02 15:02:19 UTC
    It's not even pay to win. If it I might even pay its pay to attend an event and get stuff free, it is a very odd decision I struggle to believe the development costs are recouped via this method, people go to those events because they want to and can do so and would go anyway.

    I never get these one of free ships they hardly get used and are never balanced being either rubbish (because free) or overpowered because really rare, surely much better to attract new subs by introducing new balanced ships and mechanics/in game events to obtain them especially given the time taken to make new models and set about balancing them.

    You have a set of good pirate faction ships (sisters of eve) which were really well implemented. In many ways there are too many options here to really balance these, would have been better to have some lore behind minmatar republic obtaining decommissioned vessels backed by caldari finances and basing the ships on two factions.
    Alia Nadasdy
    Imperial's Capsulers
    #58 - 2017-04-02 16:20:00 UTC
    Horrible design of ships. Ugh

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    Purist Lord Admiral Victor
    Akrasjel Lanate
    Immemorial Coalescence Administration
    Immemorial Coalescence
    #59 - 2017-04-02 16:24:21 UTC
    Subscription is not enough.

    CEO of Lanate Industries

    Citizen of Solitude
    Kaivarian Coste
    It Came From Thera
    #60 - 2017-04-02 18:56:10 UTC
    Interesting that ordinary subscribers won't get these ships. Because f--- you.