EVE General Discussion

I, personally am at the end of my rope with Eve. I have played on and off for 4+ years., but I find myself at a crossroads.


Background....

I admit that most of my experiences have been in High Sec. Space.( Mining) Not all of it, but most of it.

I am finding that there are so many Bot fleets and so many Multiboxer fleet around that EvE has become "unfun" to play.
I have no problem with the "Ganker" fleets that come and go in Eve. They are a basic part of game play here; I can make, in the context of Eve, a build that works against them, that works, or does not work ; That is what the game is about.....!!!!

What I am having the most difficulty with is the Bot Fleets and the MultiBoxer fleets.........

THERE IS NO "IN GAME" WAY TO DEAL WITH THEM.

They have circumvented the rules of the game, for the average player to compete against them.

On average there is what? 24000 pilots online? With the Botts and the Multiboxers added into this number there is what? only 18000 to 16000 individual players online? (Or less?)

CCP, you want to know why there are fewer number of players involved in Eve now-a-days? Botts and Multiboxers have taken over your game and people see this. No new players are willing to pay a sub fee for an experience that they are doubly penalised against, right off the start.

Multiboxers and Bot fleets, May, pay a sub fee for Some of their accounts, but they are driving away the diversity of the player base. You are losing ground on the diversity of your player base more and more every day. You will not survive on the income provided by Multiboxers and the Bot fleets. This is a very short term gain, and I use the term gain in a sarcastic way. You will reach a tipping point that no MMO can recover from.

There's two ways to look at this, and sadly they are connected.

1. Without the introduction of PLEX, this game would have probably died off a long time ago due to RMT running rampant. The economy would have been wrecked, players would have quit and CCP could not afford to keep developing the game.

2. PLEX facilitates large scale multi boxing on a scale never seen before PLEX was introduced. It rakes in the cash for CCP so we can keep enjoying the game, but multi boxing is absolutely one of the worst things in EVE at the moment. Sadly it is the lesser of two evils and there is no way CCP will ever limit anyone to x number of accounts when it creates this much revenue.

I agree though, seeing a single guy vacuuming up an asteroid belt with 20 accounts is pretty frustrating. And I wish there was something that could be done about it. But alas, there is not. As long as it is profitable and practical to PLEX 20 accounts in one way or another, people will be doing it.

@Trebon,

I know how you feel. Back when IS boxer was still authorized I used to mine belt ice, there was a 25 pilot fleet that would warp in unison and start/stop in the same instant. I was really disenfranchised as a miner after seeing that.

I petitioned the user, but then deleted it before a GM response. Instead, I EVEmailed the pilot (1 of 25) and started a convo. Basically, I realized that he was maximizing his hardware and running as many accounts as he could to maximize isk.

Long story short: EVE was a large part of his life. ... very large.

Mom always said: "there is always someone better, faster, smarter, or stronger. Just be the best person you can be and stop worrying about everyone else."

I almost lost interest in EVE after that...especially after reading on EVE News24 about a botter ratting billions each day with a new injector type bot...I forget the name.

What helped me was I remembered that EVE is different for everyone. I enjoy playing my character for who he is. I achieve goals and have no doubt outlasted countless bots and burned out multi boxers. (I did quit for two years due to RL). But here I am, enjoying my slice of New Eden along with the 100 or 18,000 other actual humans playing the game. In the end, there is nothing else like EVE. No game comes close. You are already a part of it wheather you quit forever or move on to a major null industry corp. Just enjoy the game...it's fun and beautiful.

EDIT: I do have two primary omega accounts...and can't imagine playing without both of them.

place a bounty on each of his 10 member fleet, then go after him.... This might be an option...

This topic has been going on and on forever in eve, multi boxers ruining the game, so every so often someone or group gears up and doo doo's on offensive mining ships, and for years James 415 or something and the cool-aid drinkers have been pooing all over this "Menace" to the game...but as always things just keep going, miners mine and multi boxers box and the same topic comes up and the gankers gank, bottom line is that you shouldn't let it bother you and carry on, there's a multitude of ways to make ISK, but if mining is the only thing you do you need to get outside of the box of caldari space and you will find your rocks.

And as the sub base has gone down in the same time frame.... would you you not say that the issue is not playing out?

Correct, but it is an aspect of EvE that is affected; an aspect that ties into all other aspects of Eve, as all the game is connected in subtle and sometimes not so subtle ways.

Why is it a problem though, except in terms of creating frustration for you?

Ah ok.

Sorry, I didn't realise asking a question to try to understand would be a problem and I have no basis for asking for information.

Fair enough. Hope you find what you are looking for out of this thread.

making mining more interactive can resolve this problem?
basically changing the "semi-afk" style that is required right now to mine :)

through minigames or whatever