EVE General Discussion

in 2003 there were T1 frigates and cruisers. Might have been battle cruisers but no battleships. You could reproc high sec drop modules for any and all minerals needed to make cruisers and if you were lucky you got meta 4 modules while you farmed reproc that you could then fit the ship with. BPO's were a lot cheaper and when you put it all together, we made them. Just like we do now.

So to answer the question, what came first, the chicken or the egg? Jamyl Sarum did and she was conceived from divine intervention.

The body of EVE is built by artists and programmers. The soul of EVE is forged by players.

As realistic as any environment where hyper-capitalism works, where environmental resources spawn infinitely, cannot pollute or be polluted and there are no women or children to consider.
Don't get me wrong, i've played most days since 2009. The appeal is to that part of the mind that enjoys play and relishes playing with or against other real people. The violence is largely inconsequential, though.
In real life, violence would be great fun if it weren't for the fact that there's people out there that really want to hurt you.

Found this:

https://youtu.be/Shhhn6lu0Nc?t=399

Maybe. We don't know how much or how little CCP intervenes in the in game economy. Presumably if there was a serious negative feedback loop CCP would intervene in some manner. However, such loops, IMO, are rare and are often caused by such intervention in the first place.

Regarding monopoly, I would say, "No." At least not directly. We have had instances of oligopoly with explicit collusion which can get you to the monopoly outcome. For example, OTEC (the Organization of Technetium Exporting Coalitions) controlled pretty much all of the technetium production and managed to drive the price quite high. Eventually CCP did "intervene", but not by breaking up OTEC directly or the like. They changed how moon goo was used in producing T2 modules and ships thus ending the "bottleneck" that made technetium so valuable.

Similarly with T2 BPOs. Early on that was the only way to get T2 items and ships and you got them via a lottery after running so many R&D missions. So if you had the only T2 BPO for a given item you were a monopolist and could set the price at a very high level. Even when more than one T2 BPO appeared in game, my understanding is sometimes players would get together and again form cartels (oligopoly again) with the express purpose of limiting output and maximizing profits. Again CCP "intervened" but basically stopped the lottery system and introduced invention. This put an end to the cartels for the most part because if they drove the price up inventors would enter the market and drive the price back down.

But note in both cases these problems arose because of previous interventions by CCP. CCP was the motivating factor behind OTEC. Basically there have been two (that I know of) changes to how moon goo are used in making T2 products. The first change made technetium the bottleneck...ooops. The second undid that first change, more or less.

Same thing with the T2 BPO lottery. By making the supply so limited CCP set the conditions for monopolies and cartels. Ooops.

Chicken and egg are the same creature in different stages of development.

If a chicken lays an egg in the woods, and nobody is around to see it, does it really happen?

Hmm, how about a trick question?

Doesnt all species have eggs that get fertilized?

Budding. EVE was created thru budding.

Back to chickens and eggs:

Eggs came first.
What laid them? Some prehistoric worm.
What, you say, a worm laid a chicken egg? No, a worm laid a worm egg. But it was still an egg, and it was laid well before chickens walked the earth.

Back to Eve:
If you wiped out all player made stuff, and all player orders, starting the entire universe over again: We would start with free rookie ships from the insurance company, and work our way up from there.