Player Features and Ideas Discussion

They already nerf multi-boxer enough to where it is pretty difficult to gank with 5+ alts.

That's an interesting opinion. Have you tried doing the same thing in return?

Multiboxing ECM Burst frigates to disrupt a gank seems like a near-surefire (and cheaper) way to defend a target against a ganking squadron of the same size. You probably just need to put in the same amount of effort as the other side (a trivial amount, as I've read from threads here on this forum) and suffer the same consequences (less, since they're FR and your only concern is aggressing bystanders). Plus, you're AoE.

Solution in need of a problem. Ganking is already trivially easy to avoid, and using alt accounts has always been and will always continue to be part of the game. If you're getting ganked try not sucking at EVE instead of whining for nerfs to protect you.

Bwahaha, No.
It's not a matter of scale of organisation.
You are asking the people involved to not only manage their scale of industrial operation but ALSO manage a similar scale of gank. Meaning you are expecting them to do MORE organisation. And the consequences of ganking are negligible to a ganker who has planned for them, but incredibly difficult for an anti ganker who tries to pre gank the bumpers & such since the anti ganker needs to actually be able to stay on grid, or they are too late to try and defend.
Also the game mechanics do not support defending against ganks currently, with how quickly they are over it's very hard to intervene even if you are in the area. You are comparing being on eternal watch vs picking one 15 second window to act in. The two are not equitable.

Hence my point to increase the gank timer so that the interaction is more spread out and there is time for intervention if people are willing (which means anyone actually afk or lazy still dies in a horrible fire), but to do that without it being totally silly season on industrials they need to get real fittings (which also requires them to then train skills to use said fittings and to have the knowledge to use them right as well).

Over all it should result in about the same number of ganks happening, if not more, since gankers will be able to operate in smaller groups, but the defenders will have more of a reasonable opportunity to intervene sensibly. Rather than this perfect robot type of response you seem to envision.

It works both ways.

Haulers often use multibox ALTS to scout their route or web a freighter into warp. Jump freighters require cynos and this will usually be a multibox ALT.

Other haulers play the probabilities - launching several freighters on autopilot before going to work or sleep. A bulkhead fit freighter with less than 1 billion in cargo is not a profitable gank and there are no tears to harvest so these ships have a very high probability of arriving safely at destination. You will experience an occasional loss but so what - as long as most get through and the business is profitable.

They have cracked down on programs that allow multiboxing to be easy. So now that its not easy have you ever tried to pvp with 2+ characters 2 characters is ok, 3 characters your usually making mistakes on one but its slow reaction usually 4 characters one wont even really get on the killmail and 5 your not solo doing 5 accounts in pvp unless your the most elite multi-boxer.

And ccp will never force people to have x amount of characters cuz they are banking in so much money from people having alts.

There are 2 points that push people to doing this. 1st is they don't want you in their space so the most overpowered reaction force is often the best way to make sure roamers **** off and go else where. Most people would rather PvP happen in someone else's backyard because it mean they are in PvP ship while the other guy might be in his PvE fit becoming an easy kill.

The second one is the obvious content thirst that some people suffer from and make them join in anything where a kill might happen. There is a skill to be had? You will have people burning from all direction with some even telling you to not kill the target so they can get on it.

It's like people don't understand that unless player have massive grudge against you, they won't be your content if you keep curb-stomping them...

Your alliance buddies must hate me quite a lot then..

You know that you could ruin the ganker's day by using an alt to shoot a ship to trip concord so the response time was effectively 0 seconds?

But that would require effort! Much better to just ban suicide ganking.