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Why people choose High sec

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saltrock0000
State War Academy
Caldari State
#1 - 2012-01-22 12:15:37 UTC
People choose highset and oftern leave 0.0 for a few reasons, and yeah if you like to think your a 0.0 ellietist twot then maybe take note of some issues i will raise.

0.0 focuses on moon mining and sov space - this means the alliance leaders scooping moon goo make billions whilst expecting thier members to fly unsociable hours protecting thier isk income.

The alliance leaders treat thier memebrs like total crap and expect massive turn outs for thier CTA's

There is only so much ABC target f1 any person can take in fleet engagements

People need to make ISK to fund pvp ships. Now either offer FULL ship replacements or respect people need to RAT to make money to defend your pos's

The endless lagged blobfest that is fleet battles is just boring, pointless and a waste of time.

This is a game people should paly it for fun

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Atticus Fynch
#2 - 2012-01-22 12:19:13 UTC
I chose hi-sec becuase I would actually like to play the game. Not have to be constantly replacing my ships in the wild-west of null space or constantly being tangled up by over-bubbled gates. I just dont see the fun in that.

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Valei Khurelem
#3 - 2012-01-22 12:22:43 UTC
Yep, games are supposed to be fun and that's what certain players on this forum and elsewhere just don't seem to get.

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium

Bischopt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2012-01-22 12:24:20 UTC
Different things are fun to different people.
Eve may not be fun for you but it is fun for other people.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#5 - 2012-01-22 12:24:23 UTC
So, basically, people choose highsec because they don't know any better?

Sounds reasonable…
Valei Khurelem
#6 - 2012-01-22 12:25:40 UTC
Bischopt wrote:
Different things are fun to different people.
Eve may not be fun for you but it is fun for other people.


Yes, you're right, EVE is fun for those CCP shows favourtism towards, your **** anyone else attitude is not going to improve the game, it is ironic you should say this though when people like you almost certainly have alts. designed to fund your PvP losses.

Without high sec, you'd be flying in noob ships.

"don't get us wrong, we don't want to screw new players, on the contrary. The core problem here is that tech 1 frigates and cruisers should be appealing enough to be viable platforms in both PvE and PvP."   - CCP Ytterbium

Calisto Fox
Doomheim
#7 - 2012-01-22 12:27:16 UTC
I choose highsec because thats the way i chose to spend my ( limited ) play time playing MY game.

Tore Vest
#8 - 2012-01-22 12:31:03 UTC
Highsec is a nice place Bear

No troll.

Grumpy Owly
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#9 - 2012-01-22 12:33:07 UTC
And yet people in null sec still beleive that these meglomaniac godfather wannabes have their best interests at heart, brainwashing them into beleiving its the "nasty" CCP and high seccers that are to blame for all their woes.

And yet null slaves still beleive all this propoganda. So who really knows better?

Seems your null puppet masters like to shoot themselves in the foot on many levels. Whilst under the dissalusionment they hold all the power. And yet more null seccers maintain alts who activley run in HS and have the need to use HS to survive. How ironic.
Tian Nu
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2012-01-22 12:38:26 UTC
I choose highsec because CONCORD protect me.

Father O'Malley about Darius III begging for whelp: “Hows that working out for ya ? I make it 02:21 and all I see is you begging Riverini to get numbers and trying to recruit from the incursion public channel.”

Zleon Leigh
#11 - 2012-01-22 12:45:45 UTC  |  Edited by: Zleon Leigh
Bischopt wrote:
Different things are fun to different people.
Eve may not be fun for you but it is fun for other people.


-1 for inability to read.

EVE is fun for OP.

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Oxandrolone
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2012-01-22 12:52:34 UTC
For alot of people farming isk is a goal in the game to them. They can freefarm isk in highsec with no risk so they stay in hs.

Incursions are working as intended, motherships were never meant to be farmed they were meant to be killed to end the incursion. Incursions are working as intended.
Akrasjel Lanate
Immemorial Coalescence Administration
Immemorial Coalescence
#13 - 2012-01-22 13:00:31 UTC
Bischopt wrote:
Different things are fun to different people.
Eve may not be fun for you but it is fun for other people.


True

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Citizen of Solitude

Pinaculus
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2012-01-22 13:23:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Pinaculus
I live in high-sec because I don't have the play-time to learn who the locals are in low/null. Since I consider that a huge part of the game that can't really be done halfway, I just do exploration with the few hours I have to log on.

If I had more play time, then I'd be living someplace other than highsec (edit: because I hate it here).

I know sometimes it's difficult to realize just how much you spend on incidental things each month or year, but seriously, EVE is very cheap entertainment compared to most things... If you are a smoker, smoke one less pack a week and pay for EVE, with money left over to pick up a cheap bundle of flowers for the EVE widow upstairs.

Aruken Marr
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2012-01-22 13:40:48 UTC  |  Edited by: Aruken Marr
Ok so here's the thing: A lot a people really shouldn't talk about things they know very little about. Im gonna go out on a limb here and say the op's opinion is a little skewed.

1. If you're being forced into joining cta's way past your bed time, either you need to grow some stones and learn to just say no or you're in the wrong alliance. I turn up to ops when I can for as long as I can (edit- and neither do I feel pressured when I cant attend). They're pretty damn fun most the time besides the glaring let downs.

2. Theres plenty of opportunities for pvp on smaller scales. Its not all just blobs. If it's all just blobs for you, I think youre doing it wrong.

3. Moon goo. I honestly couldn't give a flying **** about how much isk comes in through this. I'm getting my fun through regular pvp and I get reimbursed when I lose ships (granted they aren't totally ******** losses). That's how you get access to all that tech isk. Some reimbursements are laid out so you actually profit from losing your ship in cta's as long as you've insured it.

4. I have enough time to make enough isk to pay for what I want. Granted im not massively rich never have been. Yet again I never understood the mentallity of amassing as many digits in my wallet as i can in a game. Isk's there to be spent unless youre saving up for something.

5. Its a lot more casual than what little Ms. Information up there would have you think.


Any more, for any more?
DarkAegix
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2012-01-22 13:42:03 UTC
In highsec, you can comfortably engage in forum PVP at any given time.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#17 - 2012-01-22 13:47:27 UTC
saltrock0000 wrote:
0.0 focuses on moon mining and sov space - this means the alliance leaders scooping moon goo make billions whilst expecting thier members to fly unsociable hours protecting thier isk income.

The alliance leaders treat thier memebrs like total crap and expect massive turn outs for thier CTA's


Those are the alliances that fall apart the second a more powerful entity looks at them crosswise.

saltrock0000 wrote:
People need to make ISK to fund pvp ships. Now either offer FULL ship replacements or respect people need to RAT to make money to defend your pos's


ship replacement programs? what an innovative idea, if only we had thought of that and implemented a comprehensive ISK compensation program for strat ops and a partial compensation program for roaming/solo PvP

oh wait, we have, and we're far from the first alliance to do that!

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Salicaz
Verrimus Caelum
#18 - 2012-01-22 13:51:52 UTC
All the real pvpers are in low sec anyway.
Andski
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#19 - 2012-01-22 13:53:20 UTC
Salicaz wrote:
All the real pvpers are in low sec anyway.


camping gates is the pinnacle of elite pvp

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Tykari
The Observatory
#20 - 2012-01-22 13:54:29 UTC
I have had some fun times in 0.0 Alliance space, but the biggest reason I've had it with alliances is all the drama that usually ends up happening. In that regard I find 0.0 w-space far more interesting, it's a closer knit group so you have a chance to get to know people a little as well and you can have fun and do whatever you want in there. And right now I'm in high sec mostly because I don't have a lot of free time to play EVE so when I log in I don't want to have to go through a lot of hassle to do something and I don't have to feel like I'm not participating enough.

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