EVE General Discussion

Yeah some stuff like flying logi in a small to medium sized fleet (might get away with it more if you have redundancy in a large fleet) is going to put you at a severe disadvantage if you aren't using voice comms and just going to result in people losing ships unnecessarily.

Don't understand the resistance to it myself - though it can be a bit of a wall to get past initially - I'm pretty socially reserved and almost introverted but after a couple of hours realised no one gives a **** - jump on a couple of the bigger public roams that use voice comms and (aside from the amount of inane babble will drive you crazy) you pretty soon get used to it - there is almost always someone who loves the sound of their own voice enough to take any pressure off you to engage in anything beyond the most basic conversation.

Do understand for some there are issues like one of my previous corp had to play in a busy/community living room or something which made it difficult.

Not sure. Tried it out first on another game (small group multiplayer D&D game on NWN platform... the recent one not the old compuserve one thought I played that game too) after playing for a while with text based communications... and I just despised it. Perhaps it was the fact that with text I could get immersion that the DM and other players voices couldn't communicate well... not sure exactly. It just wasn't enjoyable at all.

I do also have some slight tinnitus which presents some issues with poor sound quality being hard for me to understand. I largely avoid phone conversations in favor of text message or e-mail communication for that reason... I end up saying "WHAT?" over and over again if someone has a sub-par mic on their phone. I've got no problem talking to people in person... but I despise talking to people over electronic mediums.

I'm not expecting the game to adapt to me. But given the fact I was responding to someone else who doesn't want to get on comms, it's clear I'm not the only person who doesn't enjoy that part of the game. And to be honest Eve has better in-game communication methods other than voice compared to many other MMO's. The fleet broadcast mechanics and chat windows are way better than many other games party-chat options when engaged in PvP.

Again... I'm not expecting everyone to change their play style. It's just the reason I primarily PvP as a solo player despite being in a corporation that runs PvP fleets.

Only for communication that does not need to be instant and can be made while "disabling" your hands while you communicate which does not apply in most case for this game.

And more time consuming. I was working on a lengthy email to explain a question...stopped, picked up the phone and called. I said, "I'm calling because an email would just be long and convoluted...." At the end of the conversation the person agreed, phone call was better.

But hey, this is EVE, play how you like. But it does create some limitations, but if you can live with them it is all good then.

Outside of (really) casual roams most fleets I've been in have imposed "battle comms" any time anything is going on and anyone talking over the FC, etc. unless its critical to what is going on gets muted.

Text can't even come close if you are playing the game seriously for many roles in PVP for instance if say you just accidentally burnt out your local reps on a triage carrier you need the FC to know like as of yesterday and every moment they aren't seeing the text message and/or having to take attention from other things to read that text is costing valuable time and so on.

IF the true purpose of alpha is to allow new players to experience the game and decide if they want to pay to open it up, limiting them from playing in what is arguably more fun areas of low and null space will not allow them to see how much fun can be had in eve...

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Well captain Sheeple. he has no problem, not everyone needs a crutch, just because you are a bad player as an individual that needs numbers it doesnt mean he should become one. I dont begrudge anyone a game style, just like you can be an idiot and be all you can be, some others play the game with some character and creativity. As far as the rest of your post it's just gibberish and some of the worst financial moves CCP could make.

Well, I tend to walk to people's desks when something needs to be talked through instead of calling them.

I'd say voice communications are faster when you need confirmation that the other person understands what you're telling them or need feedback... but they tend not to be quicker when you are simply providing information. If I need to tell my wife that I'm on my way to pick our son up... a text is faster than a phone call. If I need to check if she wants me to pick up dinner... and if so from where... and what she wants to order... yeah, you call.

Saying: "Primary is ship A, secondary is ship B" doesn't require feedback. Broadcasting for reps doesn't either. The benefit from voice only comes from not having to stop controlling your ship to type... not from anything inherently beneficial from using voice to communicate. Not only that... if my wife was asking me something at the moment a voice command came in I miss it permanently... while a text command is still there for me to read a second later when I look back at my screen.

That being said... in Eve the only way to generate Text is to stop piloting your ship. So I understand why fleets use voice comms. I just choose not to take part.

Good luck with getting the attention of the right person fast enough if say you are logi and someone in fleet is wandering out of rep range, etc. with both the issues of getting that specific persons attention fast and not dropping reps if the hostiles swap targets or spread damage, etc. at the same time.

Granted there are fleet roles where very little feedback is required but its very rare that text makes things more fluid in any kind of medium sized PVP action.