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Matthias Ancaladron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#41 - 2017-03-17 20:55:30 UTC
This is a subscription based game. There should be no microtransactions
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#42 - 2017-03-17 21:25:29 UTC
Matthias Ancaladron wrote:
This is a subscription based game. There should be no microtransactions

Finally, a voice of reason emerges out of the deafening roar of MT jubilation.

In my opinion all MT items should be player made. The NES should only sell limited run BPC's for those items.

Now that would definitely kick industry up another notch in-game.



DMC

'The Plan' | California Eve Players | Proposal - The Endless Battle
Trasch Taranogas
State War Academy
Caldari State
#43 - 2017-03-17 22:00:38 UTC
Matthias Ancaladron wrote:
This is a subscription based game. There should be no microtransactions


Now its free 2 play. If you want advantages you need to pay.

If you always stay ready you don't have to get ready.
Matthias Ancaladron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#44 - 2017-03-17 22:05:16 UTC
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Matthias Ancaladron wrote:
This is a subscription based game. There should be no microtransactions

Finally, a voice of reason emerges out of the deafening roar of MT jubilation.

In my opinion all MT items should be player made. The NES should only sell limited run BPC's for those items.

Now that would definitely kick industry up another notch in-game.



DMC

I'm a hypocrite for saying it because im an alpha and i wouldn't be able too play without the alpha clones but it's stupid to expect people to pay for a game than go into a game and pay more money to unlock content they've already paid for.

No different than disc locked dlc, it's completely reprehensible.
Matthias Ancaladron
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#45 - 2017-03-17 22:09:45 UTC
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
Matthias Ancaladron wrote:
This is a subscription based game. There should be no microtransactions


Now its free 2 play. If you want advantages you need to pay.

No it's not. Microtransactions in this game dont provide any advantages unless your specifically talking about buying and selling plex for instantaneous disposable idk.
If you want all the content in this game you still have to pay in some form. Why would you voluntarily pay for the same service twice without die sort of serious mental defect.
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#46 - 2017-03-18 11:41:19 UTC
Matthias Ancaladron wrote:
Trasch Taranogas wrote:
Matthias Ancaladron wrote:
This is a subscription based game. There should be no microtransactions


Now its free 2 play. If you want advantages you need to pay.

No it's not. Microtransactions in this game dont provide any advantages unless your specifically talking about buying and selling plex for instantaneous disposable idk.
If you want all the content in this game you still have to pay in some form. Why would you voluntarily pay for the same service twice without die sort of serious mental defect.


not yet they don't. they are having to make up for the numbers we used to have. I used to log on at any time and see 40-50k online years ago. saw those numbers again with alpha but they went back down and they are looking for other ways of funding. it also doesn't help when they design other games and quit like the vampire mmorpg they were making or scrapping dust514 because "programming is hard".

reading their bits of dev blogs where they change things or take things completely out shows they aren't the brightest over there at hq.

"Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mind." -Dr. Smith
Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#47 - 2017-03-18 13:18:13 UTC
Let me predict what comes next ... subscriptions for money will be phased out, Omega time is then only available via PLEX. This could be combined with a small reduction in PLEX prices to compensate, but would make CCP probably more money in the long run.

I'm my own NPC alt.
Chewytowel Haklar
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#48 - 2017-03-18 13:47:22 UTC
DLC Pack: Walking in Spaces

You can now walk in a mutherfracking station |O| In addition to this, you can also purchase different interior station skins. Have you ever dreamed of the inside of an EVE station looking like Earth Spacedock? Well now it can! Wait that isn't all :O Now you can also walk in your ships *Mind Blown*. Do you want the interior of your ship to look like the famous Battlestar Galactica? Well now it can! You can even customize the interior look of your Captain's Quarters. All of these options will allow you to customize the look and layout of the interior spaces of your choice.

For an additional cost you can buy a wide selection of NPC's to interact with so you can pretend you actually have friends. Chose from a variety of strippers, slaves, and more to walk around in your spaces when you aren't. You can even buy maids that will simulate cleaning your dirty ass stations and ships! And if that isn't enough you can even buy mounts to help you get around faster, cause these stations (and ships) are pretty HUGE.

DLC Pack: Pets in Space

Now you can buy pets that will follow you around loyally and help you confuse the living **** out of your enemies. Want a Titan for a pet? It might not be able to shoot back, but it will simulate a fake doomsday attack. How about having a pet carrier? Have this bad girl follow you around and it will on command simulate a fake but convincing cyno field. Ever get bored in space while waiting for a fleet to get ready? Well now in addition to owning these amazing new pets you can also queue up automagically and fight against other capsuleers pets! Don't like their pets? Put a bounty on a capsuleers pets to get revenge for destroying your precious loyal friend.
Teros Hakomairos
Doomheim
#49 - 2017-03-18 14:58:43 UTC
subscriptins have to stay WAY over every possible MT regarding benefit and possibilities.....

why?

Because this stays a sub based game and every further step towards a ftp madness ccp will have to fight and will have to take out of our dead hands....

the line is drawn here......
Kathern Aurilen
#50 - 2017-03-18 15:48:07 UTC
Linus Gorp wrote:
Incarna is back.

How bad was incarna. What did they try to do. I was here before that but fell off due to computer issues and just coming back.

No cuts, no butts, no coconuts!

Forum alt, unskilled in the ways of pewpew!
Brigadine Ferathine
Presumed Dead Enterprises
Against ALL Authorities.
#51 - 2017-03-18 17:04:16 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
Let me predict what comes next ... subscriptions for money will be phased out, Omega time is then only available via PLEX. This could be combined with a small reduction in PLEX prices to compensate, but would make CCP probably more money in the long run.

They better not
Teros Hakomairos
Doomheim
#52 - 2017-03-20 10:09:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Teros Hakomairos
Welcome to 2017 where the announcement of Microtransaction in Eve don't cause a 50 side shitstrom in forum anymore.....

If there really was a proof necessary that the brainwash of the community regarding this has worked and "the players have changed since than" well....here it is...micro transaction are,beside for a couple of people that are "stuck in the past"....completely "normal"

This is so sad.....

eve once was special in fact the community was so annoyed by the simple announcement of the monocle that they rebelled and forced ccp to take it back...and today? nothing.......

MT are "normal"......
Salvos Rhoska
#53 - 2017-03-20 10:16:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
We are resigned to our fate.
Many moved to reddit to shiptoast oneliners on FCs taking pics of their buttholes etc instead.

And the powers that be stand to benefit from 1/500 PLEX, as it effectively multiples their PLEX stockpiles by 500%.
They can now compete on the market with 500% more units with incremental sales profit, plus more easily buy up undervalued units.

And also from the wiping of < 1000 Aurum player capital, against their own stockpiles which ARE converted to PLEX units.

Now that PLEX is in 1/500 units, they can more readily compete against, and profit from, incidental PLEX introduction.
The Aurum wipe made the <1000 Aurum poorer, and the >1000 Aurum richer.

GJ on an other successful CCP AWOX.
Im legit impressed.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Aves Asio
#54 - 2017-03-20 10:42:24 UTC
Teros Hakomairos wrote:
Welcome to 2017 where the announcement of Microtransaction in Eve don't cause a 50 side shitstrom in forum anymore.....

If there really was a proof necessary that the brainwash of the community regarding this has worked and "the players have changed since than" well....here it is...micro transaction are,beside for a couple of people that are "stuck in the past"....completely "normal"

This is so sad.....

eve once was special in fact the community was so annoyed by the simple announcement of the monocle that they rebelled and forced ccp to take it back...and today? nothing.......

MT are "normal"......


Most of those old ppl left and the new kids that came think that this is normal because they have grown up with mt and p2w.
Salvos Rhoska
#55 - 2017-03-20 10:51:14 UTC
Aves Asio wrote:
Most of those old ppl left and the new kids that came think that this is normal because they have grown up with mt and p2w.


Majority of players dont even known this is happening.
Majority of readers, are on reddit.
Reddit is filled with threads about an FCs butthole pictures.

This change is in the interest of the "old ppl" left with huge PLEX stockpiles.

New kids have no idea this is happening, nor of its implications.
It aint their fault.

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Keras Authion
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#56 - 2017-03-20 12:48:12 UTC
Kathern Aurilen wrote:
Linus Gorp wrote:
Incarna is back.

How bad was incarna. What did they try to do. I was here before that but fell off due to computer issues and just coming back.


Here's a tldr I've copypasted in the past.

>CCP hypes the poop out of its latest expansion
>Expansion is generally ass, melts CPUs
>Cash shop is introduced with expansion
>Monocles for 80 dollars
>Internal CCP newsletter is leaked which talks about how great PayToWin microtransactions are
>CCP remains quiet
>CCP cracks, finally says "oh god please give us a chance to explain in a dev blog"
>Dev blog is released
>Dev blog says in effect "OUR EXPANSION IS GREAT OUR PRICES ARE GREAT WE'RE GREAT F*** YOU THANK YOU FOR YOUR MONEY"
>The players get pissed
>An internal e-mail is leaked
>The CEO basically says "f*** the customers we want money"
>The players are MAD AS HELL AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE IT ANYMORE
>Jita statue gets shot at

This post was rated "C" for capsuleer.
stoicfaux
#57 - 2017-03-20 14:38:57 UTC
Drake Aihaken wrote:

* Attribute remaps (take effect immediately)
* Name changes (not sure if this is practicle or not)
* Vanity items: Hats, capes and beards (including neck variant) just to name a few

Some ideas that are bound to be more controversial:

* Premium Empire ships (the specs for these would fall somewhere between AT and Pirate Faction hulls).

Attribute remaps would be interesting. There are times when I really wanted an extra bit of PG (and was willing to sacrifice CPU to do it.) But that could fall under "Premium Empire ships" or just obnoxious min-maxing if it wasn't balanced correctly (e.g. +1 PG should require -2 CPU attribute change or something.)

Name changes are already free. I would be annoyed if CCP started charging to set our ship names.

Hats, capes, beards, etc., would be interesting. I would be worried about hats and capes making it easier to get hung up on large collidable objects though.


Pon Farr Memorial: once every 7 years, all the carebears in high-sec must PvP or they will be temp-banned.
Teros Hakomairos
Doomheim
#58 - 2017-03-20 19:37:32 UTC  |  Edited by: Teros Hakomairos
stoicfaux wrote:
Drake Aihaken wrote:

* Attribute remaps (take effect immediately)
* Name changes (not sure if this is practicle or not)
* Vanity items: Hats, capes and beards (including neck variant) just to name a few

Some ideas that are bound to be more controversial:

* Premium Empire ships (the specs for these would fall somewhere between AT and Pirate Faction hulls).

Attribute remaps would be interesting. There are times when I really wanted an extra bit of PG (and was willing to sacrifice CPU to do it.) But that could fall under "Premium Empire ships" or just obnoxious min-maxing if it wasn't balanced correctly (e.g. +1 PG should require -2 CPU attribute change or something.)

Name changes are already free. I would be annoyed if CCP started charging to set our ship names.

Hats, capes, beards, etc., would be interesting. I would be worried about hats and capes making it easier to get hung up on large collidable objects though.




Would you be worried about buyable double dps for your ship?

Because this is just the next step....

What do you all think ccp will do?
Getting MT live and not squeezing 100 % juice out of it....?

Wishful thinking in my eyes and extremely naive....
Othran
Route One
#59 - 2017-03-20 20:08:12 UTC
Aves Asio wrote:

Most of those old ppl left and the new kids that came think that this is normal because they have grown up with mt and p2w.


Spot on the money.

I can only think of two people I know who are still actively playing (I'm not) who participated in the Jita Riots/cancel your sub stuff back in 2011. That's out of a couple of dozen I knew then.

CCP is not what it was, but neither is the playerbase.

Times change whether we wish them to or not.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#60 - 2017-03-20 20:19:06 UTC
Othran wrote:
Aves Asio wrote:

Most of those old ppl left and the new kids that came think that this is normal because they have grown up with mt and p2w.


Spot on the money.

I can only think of two people I know who are still actively playing (I'm not) who participated in the Jita Riots/cancel your sub stuff back in 2011. That's out of a couple of dozen I knew then.

CCP is not what it was, but neither is the playerbase.

Times change whether we wish them to or not.


People also kinda need to be honest and accept the market changed as a whole. Video games aren't what they used to be 10 years ago.