Intergalactic Summit

Clearly, this is all a gruelling ordeal for all involved.

I like the part where what is essentially a super plague is spreading from a site of origin and curious parties are investigating that site of origin and somehow, that's awful.

Arrendis;

And vs. but. You view the second statement as exclusive of the first, which implies that you take the 'but' view.

Those of us in the State are accustomed to the 'and' view from FIO, which is to say that the second statement means less 'but we don't think it's a Caldari nationalist,' and a bit more, 'we think it's not a Caldari nationalist group we're familiar with at this time.'

As I've come to acknowledge, it's not definitive, but that cuts both ways.

Schmidt, Teinyhr; I see we've passed 'discussion' to 'sarcastic strawmen.'

Well, this thread is going places.

Going places, and gone.

I think I just won-- what is the game? Galnet Bingo?

I think you were trying to be sincere my dear I will reply, after this no more.Ms. Kim and I are very different beasts. You know that and your labeling of me as such is the most transparent of rhetorical ploys.

Xun Yu was not a perfect man and made many mistakes. We had our share of disagreements. But as usually, much of what I do, or do not, never sees the light of day. Sanxing was weak, but it will survive and change.

There is no point belaboring it, other than to say I know a good deal more about the prime instigator in the conflict than you. It was senseless, contrived, intentional and vindictively petty. I know the world isn’t fair and I am as pragmatic in my morals as any. But you are correct that “ruthlessness is rewarded” and it’s not “justice” I seek. So please don’t fault me for being so.

I hear you and I think… I even appreciate your efforts. I am angry, very much so, more so than I have been in a very long time. It’s refreshing after a fashion, as I thought I was beyond passion. You see I take perceived betrayal very personally. Strange isn’t it that I of all people would have a sense of honor and expect others to have likewise.

You see I began to trust some of ‘them’. Can you imagine? Yes, perhaps I waxed naïve in my dealings with some, but I have been alone for a very long time. I know how to survive so trouble not that I may break, as my losses are legion and yet I remain. I have a knack for duplicity and am very patient. I have waged more wars than I can remember and have even been blamed for a few of them.

You give them however too much acclaim and show your own naivety when you say they can’t be made to suffer. They can. I may not be able to kill the beast my dear, but I can make them regret. It's wasteful, yes, pointless, perhaps, honorable… no, will innocent people suffer, absolutely, does that make me like them…. most probably. In short, they turned a would be friend into an intractable foe.

But here we are and they do so love the State.

Right.

Anyway.

Okay,

So, let me make sure I have this straight. For the past couple hundred years, the Caldari and Gallente have bombarded each other's planets. The Gallente invaded and occupied Caldari Prime. Both worlds have had capital ships crashed into them. The Gallente suicided a Nyx into the Ishukone headquarters. There's been war and death and killing for generations, but Sanxing is what convinced Mr. Syagrius that there can't be peace?

I am really confused. Some pissant Jin-Mei with all the backbone of a sponge cries and goes home to his mommy, and that's the reason there cannot be peace between the State and the Federation. If I wasn't so confused, I'd laugh.

Since my name has been brought, I would like to clarify two things that were said that weren't true.
1. Indeed, I with Mr. Syagrius are very different. Starting with the fact that I am not a beast. Next time speak only about yourself, Mr. Syagrius.
2. My positions are just positions and do not need any justification. They might need explaining though, as for everything I think or do, has underlying reason, based on logic and facts.

The situation with Sanxing might reflect something about the Federation, which I don't have information about, but it doesn't involve the State in any way.

As far as I remember it was a fight between Federation-aligned (?) corporation and a mercenary corporation of dubious morality, that was supporting one infamous traitor of Caldari nation. And even the CEO of these mercs is quite known for dishonorable behavior.

From our point of view, whomever loses, would it be Sanxing, or these mercs, in the end of the day will be profitable for Caldari State.

I couldn't have said it better myself, though I suppose I should have attempted to clarify my point. Mr Syagrius clearly missed the point I previously was making; that in the grand scheme of things Sanxing was, while a noble effort, ineffectual at bringing any lasting value and had very little direct correlation to the State.

Ergo, the political situations between the Federation and State over the past few hundred years, such as the Malkanen incident have more legitimate bearing then that organization and it's leader. I suppose the subtlety of my approach was perhaps too subtle.