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Rage message for Incursion cry babies

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Tepir
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#1 - 2012-01-22 03:30:03 UTC
Stop cryin and do something about !

There are no thousands of them finish motherships ! Form up ! WarDec them (god knows you got money for that) You dont have to wardec all of them... only the major ones . KILL them. There are thousands of you and hundreds of them . Fight for your isk as all 0.0 alliances do . You wanted ISk making machine for nothing ?? you want CCP to help you ?? DID ccp help them ? Stop cruying like a litle girl and do something.

That doesnt work ? Join lowsec / o.o corporation and do Incursion with them... meybe you will even learn for what warp diisruptors is have ben used in this game for all this years

That doesnt work ? change yoour ocupation.... or simple QUIT EvE

Dont try to change Eve ONLY BECAUSE you dont like it anymore... its a sandbox and eve is cruel! fight for what you want or lose it. Simple as that.
KrakizBad
Section 8.
#2 - 2012-01-22 03:33:38 UTC
Shocked What did you do with Tepir?
Tepir
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2012-01-22 03:37:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Tepir
KrakizBad wrote:
Shocked What did you do with Tepir?



i fixed my eve client :D ? felt a taste of blood after a week or so =p

and from day one my plan was to get more people to lowsec no matters what... never asked a price... more people in lowsec more chance of good old times will be back ;'(
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#4 - 2012-01-22 03:42:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Renan Ruivo
Tepir wrote:
You wanted ISk making machine for nothing ?? you want CCP to help you ?? DID ccp help them ?



A good point in a seemingly poor written post makes me think you are bored. You failed at failing.

Although i'm not sure if thats a bad thing..

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.

Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#5 - 2012-01-22 03:43:19 UTC
wtf were am i

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.

Tepir
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#6 - 2012-01-22 03:45:43 UTC  |  Edited by: Tepir
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Tepir wrote:
You wanted ISk making machine for nothing ?? you want CCP to help you ?? DID ccp help them ?



A good point in a seemingly poor written post makes me think you are bored. You failed at failing.

Although i'm not sure if thats a bad thing..



blah... my english meybe suck, but i know you agree with me, part with you flaming me was only obligated procedure where you have to insult better corp than your own. I understand it ,dont worry... i forgive you

il return with standard: omg wtf you epic fail... and stuff
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#7 - 2012-01-22 03:52:21 UTC
Tepir wrote:
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Tepir wrote:
You wanted ISk making machine for nothing ?? you want CCP to help you ?? DID ccp help them ?



A good point in a seemingly poor written post makes me think you are bored. You failed at failing.

Although i'm not sure if thats a bad thing..



blah... my english meybe suck, but i know you agree with me, part with you flaming me was only obligated procedure where you have to insult better corp than your own. I understand it ,dont worry... i forgive you

il return with standard: omg wtf you epic fail... and stuff


So in other words you're a man after my own heart.

I salute you.



But you're still bored and you know it.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.

Tepir
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2012-01-22 03:56:09 UTC
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Tepir wrote:
Renan Ruivo wrote:
Tepir wrote:
You wanted ISk making machine for nothing ?? you want CCP to help you ?? DID ccp help them ?



A good point in a seemingly poor written post makes me think you are bored. You failed at failing.

Although i'm not sure if thats a bad thing..



blah... my english meybe suck, but i know you agree with me, part with you flaming me was only obligated procedure where you have to insult better corp than your own. I understand it ,dont worry... i forgive you

il return with standard: omg wtf you epic fail... and stuff


So in other words you're a man after my own heart.

I salute you.



But you're still bored and you know it.



yeah i am bored... beer doesnt help at all this time... mbyy i need to grow and start consuming some "real man" booze and faint faster....
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#9 - 2012-01-22 04:00:16 UTC
Yeah and beer has the downside of making you grow a gut. I suggest you start drinking whisky.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.

Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#10 - 2012-01-22 06:08:06 UTC
Tepir wrote:
...DID ccp help them ? ...

Removed everything but the relevent bit


Yes, they did, and they still are.

CSM acted like a bunch of pandering, gloating Nitwits at the Dec Summit, and has succeeded in dragging CCP down to their level by all appearances. Doesn't mean CCP isn't smart, but they are definitly giving them most everything they want, now or later.

Why? Because CSM and Nullsec Alliances have the ability to recreate the events of last year anytime they want. Read the minutes. It's obvious as heck that they are leveraging that against CCP whenever they want to prevent something from detracting from their goals.

Trust me when I say this won't end well. CSMs maneuvers and abuse of the system that was put in place, is driving the nails into the coffin.

I could care less about Incursion nerfing myself, and I don't really care about NeX, WiS, Incarna, or Aurum enough to be bothered by lack of development on it. That's not the problem.

Incursions need to be balanced. Any system that allows players to make that much ISK an hour without doing more than forming a fleet in highsec and going to location, is kind of messed up.

Incarna, WiS, NeX, etc.. are just features in the game, and are not truly important to overall gameplay. Sure, cool, but not important. NeX is fine imo, and Aurum is as good of a means of delivery as anything else, and it's a hell of a lot better than this BS micro-plex **** that CSM lobbied. All that's going to happen there, is a new market for 1 day time cards, and ISK sinking into the NeX from all the ISK-rich farmers in EVE. None of that is going to do anything to create sustainable development.

Whining bunch of fraggin' sissies if you ask me. Price it in ISK, and make Micro-Plex. Save it. Don't lie to CCP and the rest of us; we know what you're in for. Neither CCP or the rest of us is that stupid.

Sure, a lot of good might come of that meeting in certain areas, and I have no problem with that; but those areas are almost strictly Nullsec specific. Most of it is Supercap and Sov changes. Better yet, they actually want CCP to drop it on the FW guys first, so they don't have to deal with it in Null. That way they can test whatever CCP comes up with and decide if they like it, before they storm the forums.

They're so transparent, it's like looking through a sheet of glass.

They say vote if you want to be heard, and they say Highsec players just don't care; yet when you make any suggestion to implement a device which gives highsec players a more intuitive or practical device for voting, they troll the hell out of it. They don't want the CSM elections advertised, and they don't want the majority of the playerbase to really understand or know about it.

btw, CCPs idea of a Truesec vampire: wtf is that? I'm not against the idea of changing true sec around alliances; but shouldn't that be more the result of alliance activity stomping out the rats, than some silly device that calls to them like flies get called to ****. The inverse is actually what would really happen, and that is how it would work for everyone else, and does for Wormholers for example. The more you farm, the longer it takes to get a respawn. Isn't that correct.

No, let's give them a sov module they can plant in orbit somewhere to call rats from non-sov areas nearby, so they can be butchered like sheep.

You want a device? Make it a game device. Mechanics that cause truesec to change based on Alliance held Sov and well-used territories. Maybe you get a spike that brings the rats in once in awhile; but usually, they just stay the hell away from you.

That makes sense.

On another note, as my irritation starts to subside here; I'd like to cover some other points.

Wormhole stabilization device. Actually, the indication here is that CCP is going to go through with it, because that's what the majority of the Nullbears want.

More lies. Only one CSM member had the sense to recognize this; though it seems he imparted his sense rather poorly upon the others. One might say he's tolerated; but not really in the loop. Poor guy.

What they are not taking into account, is that wormholers earn that safety. They work every day to scout out every possible exit and entrance, and every possible threat to their survival. This isn't a fraggin' mechanics of wormholes; it's the players that live in them doing their damnest to survive and prevent others occupying their space.

These people go out at all hours of the day, and spend a great deal of time making sure they have security; if they so much as stop for even a day, they understand that their defenses are very likely to be breached, and what comes next is a fight just to maintain their presence for another day.

This happens all the time. All it takes is one scout in, a wormhole respawn, and you've got a POS-bashing fleet on your doorstep with logistical support and more. After that, it's ransom time, or they just destroy your ****.

Giving them this mechanic is going to make it even harder. Sure, the guys in the wormholes can use it themselves, but it's not going to help them much when someone uses it against them. Anything like this has to be balanced and well thought out before it is ever introduced.

Running out of post here.

I'm sure you're all enthralled with my discourse anyway; but I'll go on for what's left.

..anything they can get their grubby little hands into.

Yeah, that's enough for now. Pretty sure I covered all the points that made me irritated; though not fully until I read the ~10 threads here that are of questionable value.

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Jas Dor
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2012-01-22 06:32:46 UTC
Tepir wrote:
Stop cryin and do something about !

There are no thousands of them finish motherships ! Form up ! WarDec them (god knows you got money for that) You dont have to wardec all of them... only the major ones . KILL them. There are thousands of you and hundreds of them . Fight for your isk as all 0.0 alliances do . You wanted ISk making machine for nothing ?? you want CCP to help you ?? DID ccp help them ? Stop cruying like a litle girl and do something.

That doesnt work ? Join lowsec / o.o corporation and do Incursion with them... meybe you will even learn for what warp diisruptors is have ben used in this game for all this years

That doesnt work ? change yoour ocupation.... or simple QUIT EvE

Dont try to change Eve ONLY BECAUSE you dont like it anymore... its a sandbox and eve is cruel! fight for what you want or lose it. Simple as that.


Let me get this straight a bunch of high sec dwellers, not in an alliance, are going to war dec a 0.0 alliance. Each corp deccing will incur an ever increasing dec cost. It'll amuse bricksquad no end. Plus the 0.0 folks specialize in sustained pvp combat. A high sec mission corp not so much.
Tepir
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2012-01-22 06:54:01 UTC  |  Edited by: Tepir
Jas Dor wrote:
Tepir wrote:
Stop cryin and do something about !

There are no thousands of them finish motherships ! Form up ! WarDec them (god knows you got money for that) You dont have to wardec all of them... only the major ones . KILL them. There are thousands of you and hundreds of them . Fight for your isk as all 0.0 alliances do . You wanted ISk making machine for nothing ?? you want CCP to help you ?? DID ccp help them ? Stop cruying like a litle girl and do something.

That doesnt work ? Join lowsec / o.o corporation and do Incursion with them... meybe you will even learn for what warp diisruptors is have ben used in this game for all this years

That doesnt work ? change yoour ocupation.... or simple QUIT EvE

Dont try to change Eve ONLY BECAUSE you dont like it anymore... its a sandbox and eve is cruel! fight for what you want or lose it. Simple as that.


Let me get this straight a bunch of high sec dwellers, not in an alliance, are going to war dec a 0.0 alliance. Each corp deccing will incur an ever increasing dec cost. It'll amuse bricksquad no end. Plus the 0.0 folks specialize in sustained pvp combat. A high sec mission corp not so much.



0.0 corps and alliances have their own problems dude, they cant fight in high sec and 0.0 to keep thers space, moment they send their manpower to highsec they will put ther 0.0 sov space in danger. learn game mechanics please!

Wardec and 0.0 combat isnt the same at all !!! wardecs are guerilla tactics!!! 2 bombers can make more damage to some major 0.0 alliance than you can imagine , but you dont know nothing about because you never cared.

Quick tip: eve-kill.net

About 234234 corps ? they can unite! but thats out of question for you to leave your own corp and pay to somebody 10% tax on incursion income you dont have :'(

When you learn how this game works than post and try to have sence .

About that wall text above TLDR
Mars Theran
Foreign Interloper
#13 - 2012-01-22 07:15:32 UTC
Fine, I'll TL;DR then.


- Micro-plex is bs. CSM doesn't want to admit they are covering up an attempt to make all NeX gear ISK purchasable in the game and do away with Aurum entirely. Micro-Plex will be a stupid 1 day time card nobody will ever use, and a thorough waste of development time.

- CSM is leveraging last years fiasco against CCP to protect their interests; using the threat of another reoccurrence to turn CCP from WiS and Dust development, and preferably keep it out of EVE. I don't think CSM would mind if Dust was a FPS disconnected from EVE.

- Most of the changes are intended strictly to benefit Nullsec holding Alliances. Sov changes, experimenting wih Sov changes on FW folk, SuperCap changes and added vulnerabilities, ejecting Supercaps from stations in NPC Null by destroying temporarily the station service there, (All intended to catch and kill rival Alliance SuperCaps while strengthening their own Powerbases).

- Wormhole stabilization technology. Intended to allow Nullsec Alliances to use Wormholes as staging platforms where they can conceal fleets. Also, can be used to invade Wormholes and bring in Fleets of Caps and Dreads to take down POS' and farm Sleeper sites. Being as much of New Eden is Nullsec, many of the Wormhole exits land there; more than most other places, if my experience is any indication.

- Truesec should exist as a mechanic influenced by Sov holding Alliances territories. Ratting in those territories should cause brief retaliations after over-farming, followed by long periods of nothing. Sov upgrades should cause a downgrade in Truesec; which results in lower spawn rates wherever Strategic and Military upgrades are present. The higher they are, the less rats.

That was CCP who thought of the Truesec Vampire; but CSM welcomed it with open arms quite quickly.
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Myxx
The Scope
#14 - 2012-01-22 07:59:37 UTC
they won't do anything but cry because for the most part, they're all risk averse ultrabears who need to die (repeatedly, imo)
Tepir
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#15 - 2012-01-22 08:08:10 UTC
Myxx wrote:
they won't do anything but cry because for the most part, they're all risk averse ultrabears who need to die (repeatedly, imo)


imo aswell , but the question remains, will they ever learn ? death on its self is an experience .
I think not. They will go back to the safe litle 1.0 systems and make 20 mil isk per hour... because they are safe there!

God i hope one day Concord stop feelin sorry for them and let us do our thing to them ....
Vyl Vit
#16 - 2012-01-22 09:46:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Vyl Vit
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#17 - 2012-01-22 10:08:03 UTC
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#18 - 2012-01-22 12:11:49 UTC
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