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As someone who pvps often i find these directional scanner changes to be completely unusable for combat purposes.

Anyone who doesn't use the directional scanner to pinpoint combat targets as the scout for their fleet within seconds of entering a system rather than minutes does not have meaningful input on the directional scanner's use or changes. Anyone who thinks the map part looks "really cool" hasn't tried using it to find a moving human target in space that is trying to not be found.

This is like when you guys redid the map and it looked so good, so great, so interactive and high graphics. But it still had to function as a map and it didn't.

This is the same problem It's a basic tool for piloting your ship. It doesn't have to be pretty, it has to work right and fit on your HUD.

The map doesn't need to be there at all and must be removed for it to be usable. at least make it so it can be like compressed more or something. you can separate the map from the dscanner and move the map so its like hanging off the bottom of your screen and you only have this weird bar at the bottom saying the system name, but that's like really weird man, you have to see why there has to be an option to close the map without closing the dscanner. That's a hard issue, if you guys don't at least make that map thing minimizable then there's no saving this.

First hard issue is having the map window up even with the smallest version map takes up the majority of your screen.

Second hard issue is this sound it makes.

If you are dscanning all over the place its just like holy cow would you knock it off i get that i'm doing a scan or whatever but it doesn't need to be like so often. Maybe if it made that ping like every 30th scan, or it pinged under conditions the player could set like, make that crazy sound if a black op is on scan or something like that. That could be cool even. But, the way its set up it just gets on your nerves way faster than you'd think. Its cool for like 10 minutes of scanning or like maybe half an hour, but if you're out in space for hours, like say half of a day, (cause we're all no life(ing) it duh) scanning all over everywhere then it really weighs on you fast, to the point where you're like omg scanner i'm going to unsub over this horrible sound man i'm gunna just smash my face into my keyboard until it biomasses me.

The good news is, those are the only two hard issues.
I'm guessing these two things are like "lose a bunch of players" type issues.

now on to things that i hate but dont think are critical.

The green like sonar haze that washes over the dscanner field is really annoying to me, i cant tell if i'm associating it with the sound its making and that makes me hate it more or not. But the green is so green and obstructing of whats written there, i have to scan again in like 1/3 of a second or however soon this thing allows me to scan again. i cant deal with all this green sonar effect happening. Again its a tool i dont need it to look cool as it displays results i just want the results plz thanks.

Also you didn't need to move the button that says "SCAN" and the angle/distance controls to the opposite side of the scanner haha, that's so annoying if you ever just click the scan button or adjust the range/angle. Now i have to have to have to hot key the scan button and find a way to deal with the angle/range. With it at the bottom it's difficult to change angle quickly from 15 degree to 5 degree, which is important for maintaining speedy scanning and then being able to differentiate things with the 5 if they're clustered. I used to have it below my overview along the right side of my screen. Now that puts the scan button in the very bottom corner underneath that weird like notification button thing thats always parroting you back the things you know you did haha. So i guess i'll never click the scan button ever again on the dscanner as a workaround to that... That's cool i guess. it'll be faster if i learn to use the hot key in the long run i guess. But i mean why have a button at that point. Its not a hard issue but its really just like whatever man i guess I'll deal with that. I've been playing with having it above my screen in the top left over the top of the piloting nav thing where it displays what system you're in and your desto and trying to use it from up there which is really awkward but i guess its ok. Sucks for no reason though. The frustration here is really just why, why did it move. I can deal with it but why. Why i ask you.

The last frustration is you guys really need to fix the delay in the stupid scanner scan button instead of making it look cool or whatever. I remember a day when you could click that scan button and it would update your scanner as fast as you could click it. Like boom thats whats on scan at the planet 4 cluster, then you could whip your camera super fast and point at something else and scan. Now you have to scan... wait for the results to display... now wait for the button to be clickable again..... ok now you can scan the next thing. You've nerfed that like 4 times and made it worse each time. ITS SO SLOW TO SCAN NOW SO SLOW SO SLOW AHHHHHHHHHHHH. Nah but seriously i could see how people could be pinging so often that it would bog things down. But really guys...

spend your time making it not make things bog down so our tool will be high speed again and not sluggish to respond.

Again tool is a tool. Work on its function as that tool.

I don't know how but once upon a time it updated fast and it was so cool. I could scan so fast. You have no idea how bad you guys have made this directional scanner over the last decade.

#fullcharactersreamainingrant

CCP Devs,

As a relatively new player who has had a difficult enough time learning the old scanner system, I find the new one completely unusable.

Is there any way for players to configure the scanner window elements to be in the old locations? The new one is awkward and not the least bit intuitive.

With the new changes, I have not been able to scan down a single site, no matter what it might be. I can never seem to get above 4%.. Ugh! I think changing how scanning works AND the interface at the same time was short-sighted and a rather poor decision.

To be honest, it seems like there was a fix applied to something that frankly, was not broken.

In light of this, I have to give up exploration as it relies too heavily on having a usable scanner system.


Whew! Thanks for letting me vent my frustration.

This needs to be rolled back and fixed asap

Before the change you could easily focus on a particular signature for scanning because you would click on it in the probe scanner window (highlighting it) and then in the solar system map only that signature would show up. This allowed me to become very quick and efficient with scanning.

Now I'm finding it very difficult to focus on a particular signature because there is all this visual "noise" of the other signatures close by. This makes my scanning much less efficient and really hurts the gameplay enjoyment, because from my perspective the more wormhole chains I can scan, the more potential to generate content.

This is from the perspective of a player living in wormholes with a lot of scanning experience with perfect skills and a virtue pod.

I'm adapting to the new UI and trying to get as quick with scanning as I was in the past, however the clutter in the solar system window is unacceptable when I'm trying to focus on a single signature.

I feel its the same for new players, sure if you are in a system with only a few signatures, this really won't be much of an issue. Now lets say that new player finds a connection to a shattered wormhole with 30 signatures, there is so much clutter it makes it a waste of time to scan that system down.

TLDR: I need to be able to focus down a particular signature for quick scanning, it was easily done in the old UI, please bring that part back.

Ok, time for an apology.
I finaly have switched to the new scanning window (not because of the shiny colors and not because of the flurry sounds) but simply because the key bindings are great (well you could have done with the old map).
And that 90-degrees-doubly-click is simply ingenious!
Took me some time to adapt, but now its ok (talking about 300-500 sigs a week)

CCPls:
Get rid of that dscan sounds *doooom* (with dscan in WHs a matter *doooom* of every 10-seconds, it is so *dooooom*)

Removed a rant.

They did it once (made it faster and easier). Result? Data sites a re dead, mission runners left low sec, etc....

I can't really get around the idiocy of action buttons at the bottom of directional scanner.

Unsubscribed.

Yes, very convenient in obscuring half the screen.
I can't find the incentive to login anymore, scanning was the last activity I enjoyed in EVE.

Currently with the new system if you use a hotkey to resize your probes while in the process of dragging them to a new location with your mouse it will return the probes to their starting location and then immediately snap them back to where your cursor is. It's pretty disorienting and doesn't make it obvious that you can move+resize probes at the same time which imo is one of the biggest advantages of the new system. To clarify: This is some kind of display issue, it still works fine and is just really weird to have your probe formation jumping all over the screen all the time.