Ships & Modules

Sort tracking for my money, Gallente BS5 was the first bs skill I maxxed specifically for the mega and whilst I can't remember when I last flew one I do remember nothing in Eve making me happier in the pants than when some one is toe to toe with your Mega thinking he might actually walk away from the fight victorious.

Then I met Mr Nos Domi ESQ.

the blasters' only do "tons more damage than other weapon systems" on paper.


in reality, their damage is only a bit more than pulses, while they have much, much less range than them (pulses do <10% less damage for <300% more range when compared to blasters, and let's not get into their relative tracking. it would make things even worse).

and don't even compare them to AC's. their flexibility makes them much more combat worthy than blasters.

for me its not really that dps thats wrong with blasters its more the damage per shot or alpha(bust) damage that i would like to see increased...

imagine nuetron blaster cannons doing arty alpha while still doing blaster dps...

this would be great to accent what blasters are good at like gate camps and undock games...

that's pretty much summing up what i said. hybrids are a niche, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with close range big dps guns. the problem is that the ships that carry them are ******* useless, which, again, comes down to speed, agility, fitting requirements. complaining about not being able to deal with undersized hulls is stupid, you're fiew years late for this discusion, you have drones and you should be able to manouver your ship properly, if there's an issue here, it's lack of utility slots and capacitor to support that. 220mm rupture gonna have exactly the same tracking as electron blaster thorax, it all comes down to having a neut and being faster which lets you lower the transversal.

the issue here is that on one side you have fast, agile and relatively low DPS ships like the Minmatar hulls, and on the other side you have slow ships with dps, range and big tank like the amarr ships and caldari missle boats, there's no need for blaster boats in this equation. if ccp wants to keep their uniqueness they should really just make blaster ships be fast, agile, have small tanks but huge dps then there's payoff when you catch sometihing and it's not impossible to do, just like serpentis ships are now, just without the web bonus. then if you catch a nano ship you have a web advantage on him and you can make up for the damage he did to you up to that point. it's gonna come down to fixing the hulls and giving proper bonuses and won't have much to do with the guns themselves simply because they're fine as they are now

Just throwing this out there, but a vindi/vigilant would still get their asses kicked by their angel counterparts for general pvp uses. The vindi would look OP on paper, until you realize that having to commit to a fight in a pirate BS is kind of a big deal.

Let's be honest, incursions aside, the vindi is a rather meh pirate ship as it is, people just like to compare it to to t1 BSs for some reason.

That said, of course buffing all the ships using blasters would make blasters work again, but that's highly impractical, especially when their biggest problem is that they really don't do what it is they're supposed to. Mega only does ~6% more dps than a geddon if you include drones, where's this facemelting DPS we're supposed to be seeing?

I started off as a Galliente pilot, then Amarr, then Minmatar; I would have to agree their are more problems with Galliente hulls in actual combat situations, whether it is solo or fleet pvp. The primary problems with Galliente have mostly come down to dictating range. Tracking hasn't always been a tremendous issue to me, because if your in the range to be slinging Blasters your generally using webs as well (though not all Galliente hulls support webs). The absence of agility and speed in the hulls combined with the short range of blasters is the primary problem. I don't think it's as simple as hybrids vs. hulls as much as it's the synergy of the two. I find I'm taking a lot more damage because I didn't have the luxury of turning off my MWD, the cap that cost and it's insane increased signature on something that's already just putting along like a brick. Also, despite the decent amount of armor, the number of plates you use effects speed/agility as well.

What you end up with between the weapon system, tanking type, favored propulsion, and poor tracking for hybrids in general is a bunch of aspects to the entirety of flying Galliente that grate against one another. I believe the nano nerf and projectile buffs (though necessarily), simply went to far. Nano-nerf pretty much killed whatever agility Gall had left (along with it's cap), and projectiles obsoleted blasters altogether. You could basically change anything on a Galliente hull/hybrid to make it a better.

Rails are, well rails in eve. Which basically mean worthless. If Gall are going to fly like a high damage near immobile turret/drone command center that happens to be able to warp around, it might as well be able to hit things that it shoots at. Drones just don't compensate as they can not be used in many forms of pvp in a practical way.

As far as fixing, I think as romantic as Galliente hull flavor is, it's a flawed system idea in circumstantial pvp with the slow high damage powerhouse philosophy. It has always has been to some degree, but the nano-nerf/projectile buff really put Galliente in the fire.

If I was going to "fix" Galliente with the least amount of effort without changing anything else or rolling back other changes that I havn't seen elsewhere (and there are a ton of good ones out there)...

- Better MWD bonuses -

less cap/sig radius penalty and/or more bang for your MWD cycle buck.

- Give Hybrids "Damage Penetration" -

Let Hybrids ignore a certain amount of tank resistance per level of skill or as a ship bonus.

- Give some Galliente some more slots for mods -

Let players sort it out the weaknesses of hulls with versatility. This would also require less stringent fitting requirements obviously. An extra low slot (especially for hybrid platforms) would go a long way for giving players an option to plug their most hated aspect of flying Galliente.

Unnecessarily good tracking of lasers and ACs close up means that Pulse and ACs are too effective in the region where blasters are supposed to be king. It also means that blasters are the only short-range turret unable to apply good DPS to smaller ships - lasers and ACs can manipulate range to reduce transversal, but if you try this with blasters you just end up out of range.

If ACs are supposed to be used in falloff, they don't need such good tracking or such high raw DPS. Cut them both, and remove the selectable damage ability of projectiles. And cut down TEs, they're far too good for their CPU use. That just leaves us with the absolute absurdity of the shortest-range weapons on the slowest ships, competing with effective med-range weapons on the fastest ships.

You fly them in minmatar fleets, it's not your 1 gallente ship that makes the gang successful, it's all the matari ones. Come back when your whole gang can fly gallente ships and still do well, and we'll talk.