EVE General Discussion

So much awful ideas.
Remove it entirely or add concord to it WTF?

Low sec is fine.

The only thing that needs to be done is nerf high sec to oblivion, then people will actually have a reason to leave the tutorial area of the game.
The fact that high sec is so populated when essentially is the "asylum" of this game says that something is really wrong.

You are supposed to leave high sec. High sec is only there so new players don't get immediately blown up while learning the game. Everything else is crappier (and it should be) in high sec, the game is teasing you to move to low or null for better rewards when you feel comfortable enough, but how can that happen when players don't even know what the dscan is.

Low sec is not the problem. If they want it to be more populated, nerf high sec so people actually learn the freaking game and leave the tutorial area for once.

I don't know anything about incursions but I heard you can make near carrier ratting in null level of isk per hour. How is that even a thing on high sec? If that's true then they should be low sec/null sec exclusive.

That's the problem with low sec, why leave high sec if you can make 150 mill an hour in the safest space of the game.

And for the people that are saying "if you move stuff to low sec then people will not do them anymore, like level 5 missions, or they will quit." So what? If people are too scared to leave the starting area of the game because they don't know how to protect themselves in a game called Everyone vs Everyone Online, then they are just playing the wrong game and should leave. It's like playing Dark Souls and never leave the asylum because you are too scared of invaders. You should like to be hunted, and you should like to hunt other players. If you don't, then the game is simply not for you.

I've been playing this game 11 months now, I leaved high sec on my own 2 weeks into the game, I was still in a npc corp. Why are people so afraid of dying in a video game? What's funny is that if you know how to use the dscan, which is not hard at all, then you are almost unkilleable. You will evade your predators before they even land on grid. You are only really at risk at gates because you can't dscan the other side, you still have options to deal with those though.

Condcord in low sec... my god. This is why developers should stick to their vision and never listen to their ignorant fans. Lol I'm triggered.

Anyone with half a brain can pve "safely" in low sec or hostile null sec. All you have to do is keep your dscan open
(you don't even need to watch local, so idk why many people want that feature removed, but that's off topic) at 14 AU with 360º angle and watch it every couple of seconds. See ships on it? short it to 10 AU, then to 5 at which point you should start to get worried and pre aling. See ships at 1 AU? Warp off. Gank avoided. Even cloacky ships will have a hard time catching you if you pay attention because they have a delay before they can lock you up. Sometimes ships can't get to you without using combat probes, giving you even more time to warp off.

If getting interrupted constantly is a problem. Then all you need to do is open your ingame map or dotlan, and search for a system with low traffic and just pve there.

I don't see how a whole fleet can be afraid of low sec even if it is pve fit. (Talking about incursions here).

I've pved in wh space alone. Did combat sites on low sec alone. Explored in hostile sov space with intel channels alone. I consider myself a noob at this game, if I can do it, anyone can. People just need to stop being so risk averse and take some risk in a risk vs reward game. Those who do will see the benefits that low/null sec offer. Those who don't will remain in the tutorial area of the game making **** isk as they should (and they should make less that they are making now).

I honestly don't see what's wrong with low sec (apart from fw farmers, which are just an annoyance), it's looks like is the best (along with WH) space to me so far. No concord and no blue donut to protect you, only yourself. Fast and accessible solo/small gang pvp, better minerals, better exploration sites and less competition.

If people want low sec buffed, or with exclusive content not even found in null, thats fine with me. But saying that low sec serves no purporse and should be removed or that it needs concord it's so stupid that it made me post here for the first time lol.

Low sec is basically a better space for those that learned the game enough to not waste time in high sec but don't want to deal with sov stuff or bubbles.

Again the fact that high sec is more active than low and null sec and not the other way around, says to me very clearly that something is very wrong with high, not low.

This is the strategy that many null-sec leaders have adopted and is completely wrong for the game (even if you think it is good for you). You don't become a bigger, more profitable company by alienating half your customers.

Sure, provide positive incentives to move to other parts of the game ( WH, LS, NS). But don't destroy the part of the game some players prefer.

"Go west young man" is better than Stalin forced resettlement.

You are so wrong it hurts... Way too many legal EVE players just do not want to interact with other players for whole 100 % of the time. 5-10% of the time - yes, but not 100%. Constant D-Scan paranoya or hours long run around "Dotlan-empty" systems to earn at least some ISK for PvP is just not worth it for them / us. I earn ISK to PVP and I do not like to be interrupted during that relaxing time to the degree, when I quit playing if bothered with forced PvP too often. I dare to quote here the opinion I agree with:


TL;DR - you want to see CCP broke and eve dead? - nerf high sec

So what exactly do you want changed in LS?

I don't want LS to change. I'm arguing against the change. I want there to be a clear delineation between PVE and PVP. let the people who enjoy doing PVP to have their own area and leave us casual PVEers alone. If I want to pvp then I'll go in there, but don't force it on me.


PS> Before you say: Why don't you just quit then, EVE won't miss you. I'm sure CCP would miss me because I plunked down over $200 since I came back in Plex. They would miss me because I've been a long long time subscriber. Without people like me actually paying for the game, there would be no game.

he has already answered maybe read what he wrote instead of asking the same things

Ok then.
That's, like, your opinion, man.

What exactly is it that you do in LS?

Those involved HS and NS changes.
Not LS.

I specifically asked about LS changes.
To which he replied 2mins 21secs AFTER you claiming he had already answered that.

This is legit beginning to stink, as do the sudden "first time posters" appearing in this and the wardec thread, often at the incidental lack of posting by typical antagonists.

Wait.. Wat..?
Not only does this not explain the timestamp issue, now you are claiming his statement that he wants no changes to LS, is false?

Are you that goddam dishonest, that you will claim to me and readers, that removing L5s from LS, is not a change to LS?

Get your **** straight, bro.
This isnt going well for you, nor "him".

Send a better shill. You guys are crap.
Better yet, send me the uber-shill!
Lets go, toe-to-toe!