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Capital Ships restricted to Large Citadels?
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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#21 - 2017-03-13 23:06:14 UTC
Mister Holder wrote:
This has probably already been discussed at length, but I am just coming back to the game after a long break.

Can someone explain to me what CCP's thought process was when it restricted capital ship docking and construction to large citadels and up? With the POS system you could do any of this with a medium POS which costs a fraction of what it costs to put up a large citadel. Now we are forced to spend 6b+ for a large engineering complex with rigs, or 13b+ for large citadel vs what, 750m for a medium setup for capital construction/docking?


That is the end of my complaining.

Thanks for listening. You are all great pals.


HTFU.

Citadels are way better than a POS. Do not compare the two. Also consider the scale. Any noob can build and put up an Astrahus they're roughly 1bn ISK. A fortizar is more expensive and unless you are very rich and determined, is likely to be owned by a CORPORATION or ALLIANCE rather than a single player. It makes sense that these larger structures accommodate capital ships because everyone knows that there is nothing more USELESS than a lone capital ship.

Hint, if you're a single player complaining because you have nowhere to park your single carrier/dread, you are playing EVE wrong anyway and it's only a matter of time before you get your shiny ganked from under you.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#22 - 2017-03-14 13:17:32 UTC
Citadels are fast becoming the scourge of high-sec as there's no efficient way to kill them. Not unlike the masses of mobile depots and mobile tractor units cluttering up the major trade hubs.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#23 - 2017-03-14 13:26:59 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Citadels are fast becoming the scourge of high-sec as there's no efficient way to kill them. Not unlike the masses of mobile depots and mobile tractor units cluttering up the major trade hubs.


What's the matter, can't afford the war dec?
Salvos Rhoska
#24 - 2017-03-14 14:24:28 UTC  |  Edited by: Salvos Rhoska
Ive never understood the rationale of allowing Fortizars and Keepstars in HS in the first place.
Asset safety mechanics already/additionally make this even more inane.
LS should have a Fortizar limit, which even then is a wide concession.

Its decisions like these that make me go tinfoil hat again on NS interests projecting into HS/LS cos they dont have/or want enough content drivers to exhaust/involve their income back home and against neighbors there.

It just stinks. Badly.

Someone please explain it to me again, why was this a good idea?

PvE v PvP <> Old School Exploration <> CODE Licenses <> CODE Special Agent
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#25 - 2017-03-14 14:59:16 UTC
Salvos Rhoska wrote:
Ive never understood the rationale of allowing Fortizars and Keepstars in HS in the first place.
Asset safety mechanics already/additionally make this even more inane.
LS should have a Fortizar limit, which even then is a wide concession.

Its decisions like these that make me go tinfoil hat again on NS interests projecting into HS/LS cos they dont have/or want enough content drivers to exhaust/involve their income back home and against neighbors there.

It just stinks. Badly.

Someone please explain it to me again, why was this a good idea?


If it was not available, people would cry because NS got more powerful tools. It's just not the same people being mad but there would still be people being mad.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#26 - 2017-03-14 15:03:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
Ptraci wrote:
What's the matter, can't afford the war dec?

It's not the wardec - it's the three 1-hour vulnerability windows every week. Not too mention the initial three-week vulnerability you can achieve by careful anchoring/vulnerability selection. And finally, with asset safety - what's the point?

Salvos Rhoska wrote:
It just stinks. Badly.
Someone please explain it to me again, why was this a good idea?

It wasn't. But they haven't been listening to their playerbase for years now...

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Salvos Rhoska
#27 - 2017-03-14 17:08:31 UTC
Goddamit...

Second question:

Who is building the HS/LS Fortizars/Keepstars?

Is it HS/LS locals, or NS fronts?

PS: I already know the answer...

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