EVE General Discussion

What exactly is the problem if a shitload of things get to Jita or any specific system except being convenient for people to buy all they need in one place so they can go pew after shopping at one place instead of 18?

You know why people build shopping center IRL instead of only small shops spread out across a city? Because it ******* work.

Torin, I mine in lowsec with 10% better yield. This interruption theory only holds up when you'd expect to be in the belts non-stop, without corpmates around. I actually want to be the bait while I suck roids for my next batch of replaceable PvP ships. It really depends on your playstyle whether interruption is actually a bad thing. To me it never was, because I am a small time manufacturer / miner and I get a lot of efficiency elsewhere. Like renting slots at stations. Less POS requirements. Zero competition on better yield ores, etc.

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Think about that.

Are you so naive that you cant see the problem with one mall in EVE that utterly eclipses all others by tens of thousands of trade value %?

If you cant see the problem in that, leave EVE.
EVE is about competition, interaction and conflict.

Jita is an NPC center of trade, enabled by failed mechanics, down all trade lanes to and from.

Its an abomination.
Empires rise and fall everyday in EVE, yet Jita only grows.

Jita is proof positive EVE systems are not working.

LS is the key to impairing transit between HS markets and NS "markets" (which are largely just import/export hubs).

If highsec consisted of 4 Islands, one for each empire, surrounded by lowsec then the dominance of jita would fade somewhat. It would remain however for as long as nullsec groups continue to use it to source supplies. To be fair though, who can blame them for using an available market to source goods instead of going through the more painful process of building everything yourself. Having said that, if the 4 empires are split from each other logical price differences might emerge. This could lead groups to use Dodixie to source gallente ships for example, though jita may remain the faction mod hub.

To be fair, there are other hubs, and I've yet to have issues fitting out pretty much any ship at them. Dodixie, Amarr etc. As long as you're not looking for something seriously rare it's easy enough to find outside of Jita.

Personally, I'd suggest that a larger number of smaller hubs would actually benefit your " dude" looking to find a ship to pew in...after all what happens if said pew is happening a long way from Jita? If there were a larger number of smaller hubs it could become a lot easier to replace ships on short notice. Including Null-hubs perhaps supplied by local builders.

Listen to yourself.

Are you seriously trying to justify an HS NPC trade hub with trade value that utterly eclipses all the entire regions of EVE combined?

Its insane.

Jita is an abomination that should never have happened in EVE.

That it did, and has, and persists, and grows, proves positively there are systemic/mechanical issues that need addressing.

The LS barrier between HS and NS, is the primary failing system.

Lolwat.

Do I "think with the increase in danger and difficulty which will lead to decrease in supplies will not make the prices of the goods to sky rocket and eventually fail?"

So you admit removing cynos, JFs and supers from LS will increase danger and difficulty.
Good.
Will that reduce supply? No, just localise it, for others to move forward.
Will it raise prices? Yes. That is good for you, moron.
If you have the brains to bring it to local markets.

"Eventually fail"
Doesnt work that way, fafo.

Seconded.
Will explain tomorrow.

LMFAO! So basicaly, u want to kill off EVE?

I think we need to split low-sec up into a couple different categories.

You need a faction war low-sec and an NPC mobster (affiliated with a NPC pirate group) low-sec, each with their own rules. That would be a good start. FW low-sec would be as it is right now without capitals. It should be a sort of limited proxy war area between the four major nations. Success should allow some areas to be temporary high-sec, so that industry options can be explored, including some of the options I will be discussing for Pirate low-sec.

Mobster low-sec should be a "pay to play" (I don't mean like RL money or micro-transactions, I mean like missions, resources, etc.) area with unique missions, rewards, and industrial opportunities. For example, there could be resources that are necessary for citadel operation. (personally, I think there should different illegal goods that a.) temporarily buff citadel services, b.) become more in demand for a citadel with the less services that citadel offers, c.) are used for buying influence in other Pirate low-sec areas). Mobster low-sec shouldn't be fair, but it should be nearly as safe as high-sec for those willing to cuddle up to the local Pirate Don. If Miner A has paid his dues, he should get local protection, but Miner B gets no such protection since he is just there in belt.. shoot he might even get shot by the NPC fleet. You pay more, but your rewards should be greater as well. Maybe pull drug collection and production out of null-sec and put it in low-sec, same with some of the higher level minerals found in high-sec.

Just a thought.