EVE General Discussion

I made the move into nullsec last year, after having been a fulltime incursion pilot. Incursions are fantastic way of showing highsec players the basics of good large fleet command/slang/how its done.

The incursion community has evolved into a more snobbish bunch than it was when i got into it, I hear tales of entire fleets of multi billion isk fits raping sites and leaving the GM super alive so they can just print money.

I think the efforts of others to kill your stupidly expensive hulls are fantastic, this is eve after all, if you start to climb up in anything, others will be ready to pull you down, this game is the most hardcore, adrenalin rush, tear feeding game on the market.

OP you are looking at this game all wrong, by choosing to live and operate in highsec, not in a strong community of players, you have chosen the life of a victim in waiting, hence your eve experiance is one of toil, scam and greifing.

Like others have said, 0.0 is not inhabited 100% by the worlds unemployed, so many players put in around 2hours per 24 if even that and do fine.

Think real hard about giving null a go, and suddenly being amazed at how wrong the 0.0 myth is.

Oh noes!

A throwaway alt in a noobcorp is cancelling his account?

I would say "Can I have your stuff" but I really don't want a noobship, civilian miner, civilian blaster, and one tritanium.


This is not monocle-gate, this is people who are tired of the rivers of danger free isk flowing out of highsec.

You want to live in the padded play pen fine, but your income will be adjusted accordingly.

I don't think they should respawn that would be the fix just like missions.

I will say this and a long list of other things 0.0's been complaining about for the past year and the overwhelmingly negative nature this community has taken is making me strongly considering taking a leave of absence for awhile, till some of this stuff blows over. I'm hoping once 2012 ends people will realize the world isnt ending so they dont have to be complete dicks all the time.

I think the real issue here is that missions are generally single person deals. We've finally have a cooperative group high sec activity around which high sec communities are forming. Now 0.0 players are coming, trying to destroy that community and whining about the amount of isk being made. The last bit has some truth (the incursions community would be better off in the long run if the harder sites offered greater reward, requiring greater organization on the part of incursion runners). By publicaly acknowledging an imbalance CCP gave the green light for griefing.

What this comes down to is 0.0 players insisting that nobody else in the game can have a profitable community. People are logging on to spend a night "raiding" with their friends and finding that their plans have been cancelled. This is what is leading to the rage around incursion griefing. (It also means that CCP has created a bit of a monster with incursions. Think what would happen in WoW if their was one NPC you could kill to shut down all raid dungeons for a night.)

Ya another idiot who insists everyone de-activates their account because HE doesn't like the game any more.

This is not about this group vs. that other group (and as mentioned, many incursion runners are 0.0 alts). Its about risk vs. reward, and in the greater picture, economy balance.


You are right about the monster thing. Once you've given people something with much better risk/reward than lvl4 missions, you can hardly take it away without pissing off a lot of people feeling entitled to it.

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0.0 people have jobs too, in fact I have a better than full time job and take 2-3 classes every semester.

I run a hundred man corp, its nice and successful within an alliance that gives everything it makes back to the corporations within it. My corp has an income of around 5 to 7 billion isk a month which we then use on our corp members, nothign is used to make the leaders get fat out here like you hisec dwellers believe. I take nothing from what my corp makes.

Your ridiculous anger is exactly WHY people do what they do to you, Eve is pvp, what these people are doing IS pvp not griefing, they are attacking somethign they disagree with, just like how an alliance in nullsec can be destroyed by its enemies in the same way, it isnt griefing, just because you are in hisec and dont want them to disturb you, it doesnt make it griefing, it makes it pvp.

And as for losing space in nullsec, yes we can lose our space, alliances ive been in have lost space plenty of times, but instead of crying, or asking ccp to stop the nasty bad guys who dont like us, we go back to war and take new space, we dont slink off to empire and cry about it while getting fat off stupidly easy isk that is made by abusing teh incursion system.

Incursions were not meant to be farmed in such a way, so yes I would imagine they probably would like to see it stopped, and if its stopped by players then even better. Go cry in another game fool.

You were playing a game ill-suited to your gentle temperament. Give my warm regards to your fellow gamers in SW:TOR.