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lon010
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2017-03-12 09:58:38 UTC
Hello,

In my attempts at pushing multiboxing to its limits, i have run into an issue.

Upon reaching, ranging from 32-40 accounts running at once, when attempting to launch another client, it simply loads to a small black screen in the corner and crashes (to white) when selected.

https://gyazo.com/2700227a6f063457b9fc3aa97594c71d

However, if i were to close random running applications in the background, occasionally, the black window will load into the client/

While all this is running, my commit memory is around 60%, working memory around 50%, cpu around 45%, GPU around 60%.

while this is happening I'm still able to freely open and run other applications like chrome to watch movies and such without any issues.

Any help is greatly appreciated
Daemun Khanid
Corbeau de sang
#2 - 2017-03-13 18:51:12 UTC
A. Why on earth are you running 40 accounts?
B. You do realize that if you are running multiple accounts at the same time they must be Omega or you are facing a ban. (40 accounts at 1bil per plex is 40 mil isk a month)
C. Controlling 40 accounts at once would almost certainly require use of tools that will also get you banned. (cutting and trimming windows, input automation etc.)

As a small time MB'er I normally try to give any advice I can for ppl w boxing questions but I find it hard to believe that you aren't in violation of EULA.

Daemun of Khanid
lon010
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2017-03-14 20:13:22 UTC
Daemun Khanid wrote:
A. Why on earth are you running 40 accounts?
B. You do realize that if you are running multiple accounts at the same time they must be Omega or you are facing a ban. (40 accounts at 1bil per plex is 40 mil isk a month)
C. Controlling 40 accounts at once would almost certainly require use of tools that will also get you banned. (cutting and trimming windows, input automation etc.)

As a small time MB'er I normally try to give any advice I can for ppl w boxing questions but I find it hard to believe that you aren't in violation of EULA.


A) cause multiboxing is life, i plan to have more soon.
B) They are indeed omega account, as per rules by ccp
C) Have zero issues managing the accounts in windowed mode (game setting)
management of window layout is allowed aswell with software, if i were to go that way
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=387571

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Sentenced 1989
#4 - 2017-03-15 11:24:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Sentenced 1989
lon010 wrote:

C) Have zero issues managing the accounts in windowed mode (game setting)
management of window layout is allowed aswell with software, if i were to go that way
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=387571



Actually C is bannable:
https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/overlays-isk-buyer-amnesty-and-account-security/

Check paragraph 4, section i.

Quote:

We do consider overlays using elements of a second or multiple other EVE clients to be against the rules. It changes the way the game is played and grants the player unfair advantages over other players. For example, having overviews from other EVE clients as overlays on one EVE client would allow a player to get real time intel from all those other game instances without having to switch to the other windows. Similarly, overlays using elements from a second or multiple other EVE clients to allow the player to activate modules etc. on those other game instances without switching to the other client windows are clearly in violation of our rules.


Having 40 clients in windowed mode without using overlays? How many screens do you have?

The Incursion Guild

Epic Arc Guide
Xynthiar
OnlyFleets.
#5 - 2017-03-19 04:52:25 UTC  |  Edited by: Xynthiar
Sentenced 1989 wrote:
lon010 wrote:

C) Have zero issues managing the accounts in windowed mode (game setting)
management of window layout is allowed aswell with software, if i were to go that way
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=387571



Actually C is bannable:
https://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/overlays-isk-buyer-amnesty-and-account-security/

Check paragraph 4, section i.

Quote:

We do consider overlays using elements of a second or multiple other EVE clients to be against the rules. It changes the way the game is played and grants the player unfair advantages over other players. For example, having overviews from other EVE clients as overlays on one EVE client would allow a player to get real time intel from all those other game instances without having to switch to the other windows. Similarly, overlays using elements from a second or multiple other EVE clients to allow the player to activate modules etc. on those other game instances without switching to the other client windows are clearly in violation of our rules.


Having 40 clients in windowed mode without using overlays? How many screens do you have?


It's not against the rules to use software such as eveo-preview, looks kinda like this http://i.imgur.com/15CzJ1N.jpg

OP: Do you have logserver logs of this happening?
Daemun Khanid
Corbeau de sang
#6 - 2017-03-19 16:22:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Daemun Khanid
Thats fine as long as every one of those windows shows the entire client. If you trim the window in any way, removing content or isolating just what you need its against eula. Every window must display the entire client.

In fact in that screen shot either interface is diabled or its being trimmed. If the latter then its bannable. Just based on that screen shot you would need 3 screens to fit 40 clients and even then they better be pretty big or you cant possiby identify things on overview. At best you could broadcast every target to make it easier to find.

Anyway eula aside, just because you arent seeing 100% usage on resources that doesnt mean you arent functionally maxed out. Could be bottlenecked processes shutting down the programs because they are waiting so long for their turn at the cpu they are becoming unstable. If I "were" to try and run more than 20 clients I would run it on seperate machines.

Daemun of Khanid
lon010
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#7 - 2017-03-20 20:10:58 UTC
I am able to actually fit 49 to a screen.

Turns out to be a bunged install as my spare computer just lags a bit when i launch all those clients instead of just crashing the clients
Daemun Khanid
Corbeau de sang
#8 - 2017-03-21 17:31:35 UTC
49 clients on a single screen would be impossible to read anything and would be unusable. The entire client window must be intact and visable. Even on a 70" screen the resolution on a 4k screen would still fail to be sufficient to read anything. But whatever, have fun.

Daemun of Khanid