Player Features and Ideas Discussion

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No doubt. However, removing a crucial part of the game, negatively impacting almost everything else simply because "I don't like losing" is an effective way of killing it off.


Many do.


Fun games attract large communities.


No ganker has ever said this to encourage their friends to play EVE.


There's a whole plethora of ways to stop gankers having their way with you. You should spend more time figuring them out rather than QQing about it.

ccp need remove lowsec tags for clean sec. status
few years ago before that tags was added balance with gank&punishment was ok
you shoot someone > ok > then go to lowsec and clean ur ss > SPEND UR TIME < most important thing
What we see now? gankers kill whatever they want don't care about ss coz u easy fly to near hub just buy tags and few minute later ur ss clean and u can kill next freighter, barge, e.t.c. < it's broken

This is not a real problem. Even if CCP removed the sec status penalty entirely and the only price for a suicide gank was the loss of your ship suicide ganking would still only be a problem for people who suck at EVE. People who use scouts/escorts, don't overload expensive cargo/modules to the point that their ships become profitable to gank, haul valuable cargo in ships that are immune to ganking (interceptors, blockade runners, etc), and generally avoid letting themselves become targets will continue to not get suicide ganked. People who fail to take any steps to defend themselves and rely on "highsec is safe" will continue to get suicide ganked. And life will be as it should.

(Not that I'm advocating removing sec status as a relevant part of the game, but it's not the most important constraint on ganking.)

And you think going back to that is a good thing?

If you don't want to lose your ship, learn to play. Stop forcing other people to grind just because you can't be bothered to learn.

^^ this u can see good example "no u" answer
hows ur siphon? D


add @Pedro pls don't say about kill-rights it's easy clean with alt < another broken system

Very few gankers bother with tags, something like 90% of the people that regularly gank with CODE. have outlaw status and can be shot at anytime.

What is broken is people thinking that hisec is a safe place to stuff their ships with shinies and use autopillock or otherwise go afk in space; despite CCP stating repeatedly that Eve is a PvP game and that nowhere is safe.

If people want to be safe in Eve then it's up to them to make themselves safe, not CCP. If all of the whining wazzocks stopped doing stupid shite with their spaceships, their spaceships wouldn't explode as much.

@otlichnik

Speak for yourself. I am a 'non-ganker'. I fly freighters and mine more than most other activities. I am a gankers main target. But ganking is pretty essential to eve's eco-system. Without it it would be far too easy to transport goods and far too easy to mine. The game would be boring and production would be out of control (production already far out weighs destruction and the margin on goods in eve is a joke). Taking valuable freight through dangerous gank systems and trying to 'beat' the gankers is what makes the game fun. On top of that gankers attack my competition. More specifically my dumb and lazy competition. Without them i make less money. We'd all be totally complacent and bored without it.

Oh and btw, i escort my freighters.



And this is why YOU are part of the problem.

Games where players kill eachother for no reason is not some new phenomenon. The whole point of this game is that you can be shot anywhere. That IS the fun. Thats WHY we play. If you don't like that why the **** were you ever here?! It's not enough that you can't hack this game, you have to lie to other players to make them think the game is impossible to play?

If this game is so hard on freighters and miners why have i never been ganked in a freighter or barge in nearly 7 years?

You think gankers are the problem? Not the dishonest and toxic carebears actually telling people not to play? Not the entitled whiners who joined a pvp sandbox game but want to change it into something thats non-pvp and not a sandbox? It begs belief.

Off you go. And don't let the door hit you on the way out.

Or the better rat.

If gankers were put to a stop it would be easier to mine. Prices would drop for minerals. Ships would be come cheeper.

What is the problem with that.

Sounds more like content for other people that actually declare war or live in lawless space. More bang for their buck when they plex and more opportunity for engaging game play instead of the ganking 12 on 1 playstyle.

How can i be what is wrong with this game when when this game first started there wernt whole gangs running around wasting ships killing haulers and the game was friggen great then. Highsec was safe. No one was complaining. Content was being created easily.

Now you say how Ganking is essential to eve. That is the biggest made up bs i have ever heard. No one is buying that.

Its ruining experiences for lots of players before they even try to have an experience. They are getting ready to have fun and get blown out of the sky before it happens. Really there is no worse game experience when a large group of people prey on individuals for a profession with out risk or repercussion. You have a monopoly on highsec space. These arbitrary rules of how much will get ganked and when can change at any point and for any reason.

Wasn't 0.0 just revised because it was to easy to hold large amounts of space with out really trying or risking anything.

It is time to throw in a wrench in the highsec ganking thugs network for the same reason.

The people getting ganked are not dumb. They are not lazy. They are just NOT INTERESTED is griefing. Some of us are informed and know about ganking some do not or think its really not worth the effort to protect against since they will not survive no matter the amount of preparation which ofc is true.