EVE General Discussion

HS is relatively safe. It is not safe if you want to be a complete idiot.

That's incorrect. Oveur said it should be difficult to pirate in high sec. It is not. Its so easy people destroy empty freighters when they're bored. Compared to the past piracy in highsec is at its easiest. There are people multiboxing freighter kills. Ganking is cheap, easy and profitable.

You can blow smoke and obfuscate but you're only fooling yourself.

Yes it is. Now to pirate in HS you need an organization like Miniluv, CODE. or the like. A goddamn alliance including SRP, comms, logistics, FCs, and so forth.

This claim it is "easy" is a lie. A blatant bald faced lie.

The problem here is what people see vs. what they don't see. They see 50 catalysts burning down a freighter and conclude, "Oh that is easy."

Sure. Once you have done the logistics, got the fleet up and with people in it. Got the target bumped...and that presumes you have the target identified and followed from it's point of origin.

All this stuff had to happen before the suicide gank.

You are horrible. You are horrible because you only see what is right in front of you. You cannot see what is in front of you and extrapolate back to that which is unseen like in the article by Frederic Bastiat. Of course, I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here. That you just can't see it. The alternative is you do see it and because of your agenda pretend like you don't see it and deliberately spew nonsense and lies.

There is also the possibility that this point is far too subtle for you.

Edit: The article I linked is one of the first examples of what is known as opportunity cost. In that article Bastiat uses opportunity cost to point out that breaking windows does not create new economic activity, there is no net gain to society. That destroying wealth and then replacing the destroyed wealth is not a recipe for improving society and that all it does is redistribute wealth and income.

There is a also a more subtle point. The subtle point is that we should look beyond what is obvious, in the case of the cobbler and glazier the broken window and think what else could the cobbler have spent his money on had the window not been broken. Breaking the window is not only a loss for the cobbler who had the window repaired, but also a loss for whomever would have received the money the cobbler would have spent had the window not been broken. And that third party, the one who is not getting the money the cobbler would have spent, is not heard from at all. He is a silent victim in the tale.

Dopes like Infinity Ziona will likely not even grasp this point even though I have spelled it out, literally in black and white. He is too stupid, too unimaginative to see this problem.

Find one then. Any post you like except an obvious "slap" in response to some unusually stupid or dishonest post.

I don't doubt you'll find plenty of material you don't agree with or don't like - but that's to be expected in your case.

OTOH I never lie in forums. This doesn't mean I never make mistakes of course - but I don't "spin" what I'm saying, and I never just make stuff up and present it as evidence.

BTW:

• Even when I have to "slap" someone I don't make anything up, but I've never found "fisking" to be useful, so such posts are accurate, but usually incomplete.
• As far as I'm concerned, taking a few words out of context is no different to simply making stuff up on the spot. Obviously I don't have to go back and check I haven't been lying, but I will check the context of anything you present.

I'm pretty sure you're one of those "trolls" i've been hearing so much about. I could be wrong but i have seen you ignore some pretty decent supporting evidence in favour of continued opposition at any cost..

So are players like you.

Really? What buffs?



And how much do those tags cost?



First off a catalyst does not put out the same DPS if you fit it the same. That is a gank cat will crap out about 684 DPS, a megathron fit similarly will crap out 1,419 DPS.

Further, using a megathron to gank with back in the day you'd get insurance. So in that respect ganking was easier.

No doubt it was stupid, and IIRC an isk source too. Back then the insurance payout was based on a calculus unrelated to the actual hull value, as such it often paid to build a bunch of BS then self-destruct them on the undock. Using them to also gank was even better. Your insurance payout more than covered your ship loss and you got the gank loot as well.

The idea that suicide ganking has been buffed is simply laughable.

Edit: To be clear, the removal of insurance for suicide ganking was absolutely a nerf to suicide ganking. Yes, it made sense and I am not opposed to it, but to claim there have been buffs that surpass or even match this nerf is moronic in the extreme....oh wait, yeah I forgot I'm essentially responding to an Infinity Ziona post....moronic in the extreme is standard.

Spoken like a true noob:

I clearly described the major buffs. Reduction in sec loss, addition in sec gains from PvE, sec gaining items, the isk faucets of anoms, moons, incursions easily offsets tag prices, buffing of wrecks so they can't be popped.

As stated already having to spend 3 weeks in null to grind up made ganking much much harder. That was the only way to raise it reliably and it was slow as ****.

Your comments about catalysts not being able to do what megas can do demonstrates why I generally laugh at your posts. Any EvE veteran knows cats do old mega damage. Or do you think we were undocking back then in 2016 megathrons?

Also the insurance changes mean jack - dessies / SB are so cheap you do same DPS and lose the fitting costs of a Battleship without having to insure the battleship :)

A few pages ago in this thread there was a dead horse. Now all I see is a heavily trafficked blood smear where it used to lay.