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Has the Pre/Incarna mindset returned to CCP

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Berendas
EVE University
Ivy League
#21 - 2012-01-21 22:02:02 UTC
ShipToaster wrote:
Low sec:
No, not attractive enough, we need to sexify it more :)



And yet, the CSM minutes that just came out say NOTHING of low sec. Go ahead, ctrl+f "low sec," it comes up once as part of a meaningless list that basically states "Low sec a part of the game." Yes CCP, it is a part of the game, a part that has gone on neglected for damn near 5 years. Low sec deserves and needs some serious attention.


Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
Vae. Victis.
#22 - 2012-01-21 22:21:41 UTC
Berendas wrote:
ShipToaster wrote:
Low sec:
No, not attractive enough, we need to sexify it more :)



And yet, the CSM minutes that just came out say NOTHING of low sec. Go ahead, ctrl+f "low sec," it comes up once as part of a meaningless list that basically states "Low sec a part of the game." Yes CCP, it is a part of the game, a part that has gone on neglected for damn near 5 years. Low sec deserves and needs some serious attention.




Agreed, although there has been some modification and enhancement already in the PI changes.

I suspect many low sec enhancements will come in at the same time as the FW changes.

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Vallek Arkonnis
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2012-01-21 22:49:00 UTC
Valei Khurelem wrote:
I'll judge them on whether they get rid of the Nex Store, either they'll keep it as low profile as possible and hope no one notices when they add items that affect gameplay or they'll finally get rid of it after a long while of arm twisting from the player base. It's not all the other changes that CCP seem resistant on, it's that stupid item shop, I can't believe they still haven't removed it.

If they remove it, then at least some of CCP will have changed, but there are clearly stubborn elements in the company who want to keep that kind of crap going and like showing favourtism to certain groups of players.


Aurum will be used for MT's in Dust. NeX isn't going anywhere. So if it's mere existence and vanity items make you that angry, that sounds like your problem. By your rationale, (using real money to buy stuff is bad) PLEX should be removed as well. That ain't happening.
Alara IonStorm
#24 - 2012-01-21 22:56:09 UTC
Ranger 1 wrote:
I must have missed the memo about wars becoming consensual ShipToaster.

I think he is talking about Dec Shielding.

Great list though.
Poetic Stanziel
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#25 - 2012-01-21 22:57:11 UTC
Muestereate wrote:
It started off like gangbusters. A recommitment a return to old values that made EVE great. Enthusiasm, activity and involvement with the community and I at least started to play the game again.

Now I'm starting to see some changes. Changes that don't effect me but changes that are developing a bad taste in my mouth. Maybe its the trash CSM talking or maybe it is like a lot of explosive starts that fizzle. To me I'm seeing a return of the mentality that they want to direct our actions as if they are the boss, the 1%ers. Call it balance, call it nerf but someone is being allowed to get their Jollies by shatting on the playerbase again.

Maybe you should get specific, rather than talk in vague generalities. What ARE you complaining about? No one knows.
Alticus C Bear
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2012-01-21 23:09:58 UTC
We were spoiled just before crucible, almost constant devblogs new things emerging all the time, it has certainly slowed but then it has been xmas/new year.

Devblogs on the content in the CSM notes would be nice, a little more detail to allay peoples concerns.
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#27 - 2012-01-21 23:17:08 UTC
Cant sexyfy a boneyard. Low sec has turned into a reaver belt pratically and I blame the local reavers.

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Atticus Lowa
Lowa Corp Industries and Security
#28 - 2012-01-21 23:47:52 UTC
Jas Dor wrote:
I don't get CCP's focus on the NEX store. The current implementation is intrusive, breaks immersion, and is an unwanted imposition on the in game environment. On the other hand if CCP just canned the in game NEX store and made all of it's functionality available through the account management screen, I think people would be fine with that. Going to an out of game area to get a pair of sunglasses for your character pic = fine, in-game store = bleeding wound. Kill the store, implement customizable ship skins and state that no game play effecting items will be offered through the store would go a long way to healing some of the damage done.

Personally, every time I dock at a station and see the NEX store I wonder WTF I'm doing playing this game.


personally im cool my nex store button doesn't work, and im not going to bother fixing it anymore, im cool with my current market purchased aurum stuff...

but i believe 2 things, aurum costs go WAY down, a single plex should give you the goggles AND navy shirt at least, AND STILL have some points left over. the other is maybe you could use aurum to buy merchandise, id love to use aurum i acquired in-game to buy a caldari key-chain.

anyways... im looking forward to 1.1, the improved UI should make the game more efficent and game balancing when needed is needed so...
Renan Ruivo
Forcas armadas
Brave Collective
#29 - 2012-01-22 00:53:48 UTC
Muestereate wrote:
WaaahhWaaahhWaaahiwanttocomplainbutidon'tknowwhattocomplainaboutsoi'lljustcomplainaboutgenericstuffwaaaawhwaaaaaahhh



In all seriousness though, can you be more specific about what is leaving a sour taste in your mouth?


Its like going to a software developer and saying "Hey man i tried to run your program and it gave me some error.."

Really usefull.

The world is a community of idiots doing a series of things until it explodes and we all die.
Cyzlaki
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2012-01-22 01:25:21 UTC
ShipToaster CCP addressed most of that gigantic list so I don't see your point
Galega Ori
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#31 - 2012-01-22 02:00:33 UTC
Jas Dor wrote:
I don't get CCP's focus on the NEX store. The current implementation is intrusive, breaks immersion, and is an unwanted imposition on the in game environment. On the other hand if CCP just canned the in game NEX store and made all of it's functionality available through the account management screen, I think people would be fine with that. Going to an out of game area to get a pair of sunglasses for your character pic = fine, in-game store = bleeding wound. Kill the store, implement customizable ship skins and state that no game play effecting items will be offered through the store would go a long way to healing some of the damage done.

Personally, every time I dock at a station and see the NEX store I wonder WTF I'm doing playing this game.


Pesonally I think you and those like you are just looking for any excuse to vent frustation at CCP over the NEX store because of some RL issue you don't know how to deal with. CCP has clearly stated that no items will be sold via the NEX store or by any other means that give an in game advantage to one player over another. Until CCP breaks this word any hate from you and those like you is nothing more than hot air.

So calm down and instead of being a hateful forum warrior, go and direct that RL hate at someone in game and pop their ship.

Can flipping is a great way of doing this.Pirate

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Ariel Dawn
les PIEDS dans le plat
#32 - 2012-01-22 03:04:32 UTC
You guys are probably just angry about the Drake.

Just train everything and then you won't have an issue if the Flavour of the 3-Years Ship gets a change. New drake is more exciting and interesting using HAMs as well.
ShipToaster
#33 - 2012-01-22 03:44:35 UTC
Cyzlaki wrote:
ShipToaster CCP addressed most of that gigantic list so I don't see your point


These were intended as fixes when? THREE YEARS AGO. The few that have been were done in the last few months or are planned for the next few months.

Very few of these have actually been implemented, and the forum might be new but it is still ****. The risk to reward one stands out, ever hear of incursions?

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Amber Libertus
Doomheim
#34 - 2012-01-22 03:53:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Amber Libertus
Muestereate wrote:
Now I'm starting to see some changes. Changes that don't effect me but changes that are developing a bad taste in my mouth.

Such as?

I love completely generic complaints that can be, with a few words altered, pasted into any message board of any game forum at any time and make just as much sense. Obvious troll is obvious...
Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
#35 - 2012-01-23 01:50:51 UTC
Muestereate wrote:
Now I'm starting to see some changes. Changes that don't effect me but changes that are developing a bad taste in my mouth.


Stop drinking from the toilet bowl.

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