EVE General Discussion

I don't know about everyone, but I do.

Get rid of it. All you need is lawful space and lawless space. No need for some in between space that makes no one happy.

Mr Epeen

lvl 4 missions, out of HS, restricted to low/null

Incursions, out of HS, restricted to low/null

Basically everything but veldspar, out of HS.

Ramp up the market taxes and fees in HS gradually but continually, until decent LS hubs pop up (once they pop up you may be able to slightly lower the taxes again, you need them higher initially to overcome the inertia).

Basically nothing 'end game' should be in HS.

Edit: Oh and wardec fees made much cheaper. Wars for everybody, war is good for the eve economy

I know lowsec is not all faction warfare, however whenever lowsec is talked of, that is what most people focus on. So you might find this thread interesting OP:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=511134&find=unread

There are issues not-FW related in that thread too.

I would just expand FW systems and give the Iaptan titans to each faction as a final HS target as well as player made gates patrolled and engaged by FW in HS to create more/less passageways between the empires that due to the nature of knocking out a gate for a time would make logistics rather... interesting.

I really dont like the capital usage increase in low. Its just too much imo so Id call for some very light restrictions.

Other than that I like that low is much busier than it used to be.

i sort of agree with this. low sec doesnt deter pirates or anything because the penalties are so easy overcome so whats the point. changing gate gun mechanics and adding tags for sec was a big mistake. tbh gates should be almost alpha-ing. they are so easily tanked. criminal flags are again pointless and can be avoided. its just about immersion and content. with piracy pretty much a none thing now you dont even get flashy red epeen anymore which tbh 8 yrs ago was pretty cool.

miners wont mine either, no point attempting lvl 4 and 5 missions in low sec either its just not worth the risk

the problem is why do a level 4 mission in low sec for example when you can do one in highsec at no risk. Perhaps one change ia that we have 3 clear distinct tiers where perhaps only 1-2 missions in high, 3-4 in low and 5 in null. that sort of thing.

it is n fact pointless.. so actually yes i agree. id like to see more 0.0 npc instead tho

exactly what i was trying to say with the 3 tier system which are distinct. the problem is now with FW it deters people coming in to lowsec to do other such things. There are so many people now in FW and a lot of systems are packed, everyone is also a pirate meaning because of the changes being minus sec status is just the norm. its a place where everyone is looking to shoot you so you wouldnt risk going in

lowsec is like the bronx. full.of bad people happy to kill you where the police just pick up the bodybags. maybe lowsec is the battle arenas everyone wants and it serves no other purpose than that. I dont think we can have both unless fundamental changes are made. that means a complete overhaul. Citadels have helped somewhat.

criminal flags are useless lets face it so they dont really help. its like giving a chav an asbo. its just something they can show off rather than a deterent

It's not bad. It's not good either. It's .. pointless.

As said above, just make +0.0 Empire High Sec and -0.0, Lawless Null sec.

Pointless 'gray' area is one of those 'No Mans Sky' optical illusions of 'deep meaningful content'.

The only change I would make to Low Sec is

Option to deploy bubbles.

Option to bomb stuff.

Give sentries a higher damage output

only difference would be the sentries and sec status compared to high and null sec

Interesting article on CZ, which seems to expand on some of the points made here; to reinforce or refute others.

I don't do FW, and although I do travel through Lowsec the question often occurs to me: What is it for?

Covert Ops cloak > lowsec almost all of the time, the lack of bubbles is extremely no-scout solo friendly. You can also trigger some of the lowsec content from highsec (ded 5s for instance), only time you are particularly stuck in a predictable location to be harassed is if you want to run missions there.

Escalation runners don't even have to dock or use a public signature that someone else might have scanned earlier, and the stratios (accessible ship for low skill pilots), is challenged by ded 5s, its not defeated by them.

As a solo pilot I even held a couple of moons for months - even when the material was twice the value of the fuel required (ie worthwhile).

There is also lots of low that is not FW space, or not particularly active FW space.

IMO the mechanics are fine, it is as baltec suggests, economic. Infinite level 4 content nipples to feed from in highsec, and other incomes that are higher and other conveniences, and the perceived risk of completely sidelining battleships as a useful tool, and thus risking new players not understanding how they might "progress".