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Ajem Hinken
WarFear Gaming
#1 - 2017-03-07 21:34:45 UTC
I'm a Caldari thinking of mission running or ratting in highsec or borderline lowsec and I'm not sure if my fit is very good.

This is the fit I'm working on getting ISK and stuff for:

[Cormorant, Ratting Cormorant]
Vortex Compact Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Vortex Compact Magnetic Field Stabilizer

Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Navy Cap Booster 50
5MN Cold-Gas Enduring Microwarpdrive
Induced Compact Multispectral ECM

Modal Light Ion Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Modal Light Ion Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Modal Light Ion Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Modal Light Ion Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Modal Light Ion Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Modal Light Ion Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Modal Light Ion Particle Accelerator I, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Salvager I

Small Hybrid Burst Aerator I
Small Algid Hybrid Administrations Unit I
Small Ancillary Current Router II


I use a slightly different version with scanning capabilities and no tank rn.

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Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
#2 - 2017-03-07 23:47:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Rawketsled
Take off the ASB and the ECM. Both are terrible choices for ratting.

Take off the Small Algid, and the Small Ancillary Current Router. You're have fitting room to spare.

Before you go any further, where are you ratting? Since you say Caldari, I'm assuming Caldari space, but if you're elsewhere that'll influence your fitting choices.

[EDIT] Modal Lights are expensive. Use the Anode Lights instead until you can use T2 Guns.

[EDIT] Consider the following. It should fit together on low-ish skills.

[Cormorant, Unnamed loadout]
Vortex Compact Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Vortex Compact Magnetic Field Stabilizer

5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Optical Compact Tracking Computer, Optimal Range Script
Medium Azeotropic Restrained Shield Extender

Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I, Thorium Charge S
Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I, Thorium Charge S
Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I, Thorium Charge S
Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I, Thorium Charge S
Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I, Thorium Charge S
Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I, Thorium Charge S
Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I, Thorium Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Ajem Hinken
WarFear Gaming
#3 - 2017-03-08 00:12:03 UTC
Rawketsled wrote:
Take off the ASB and the ECM. Both are terrible choices for ratting.

Take off the Small Algid, and the Small Ancillary Current Router. You're have fitting room to spare.

Before you go any further, where are you ratting? Since you say Caldari, I'm assuming Caldari space, but if you're elsewhere that'll influence your fitting choices.

[EDIT] Modal Lights are expensive. Use the Anode Lights instead until you can use T2 Guns.

[EDIT] Consider the following. It should fit together on low-ish skills.

[Cormorant, Unnamed loadout]
Vortex Compact Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Vortex Compact Magnetic Field Stabilizer

5MN Y-T8 Compact Microwarpdrive
Optical Compact Tracking Computer, Optimal Range Script
Medium Azeotropic Restrained Shield Extender

Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I, Thorium Charge S
Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I, Thorium Charge S
Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I, Thorium Charge S
Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I, Thorium Charge S
Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I, Thorium Charge S
Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I, Thorium Charge S
Anode Light Neutron Particle Cannon I, Thorium Charge S
[empty high slot]

Small Ancillary Current Router II
Small Anti-Kinetic Screen Reinforcer I
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I

I'm a Caldi Alpha... so most t2's are unavailable. My fit actually was an experiment based upon a shot at a PvP fit I had made based upon 'you can't shoot what you can't lock'. It's worked so far, as rats have the same rules and weaker sensors.

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Rawketsled
Generic Corp Name
#4 - 2017-03-08 00:34:05 UTC
Pretty sure rats don't feel ECM.

This may have changed, which would be a pleasant surprise to me.
Ajem Hinken
WarFear Gaming
#5 - 2017-03-08 00:40:04 UTC
Rawketsled wrote:
Pretty sure rats don't feel ECM.

This may have changed, which would be a pleasant surprise to me.

Oh I've used an ECM on them... The screen said "Jammed Guristas Saboteur" or something of the like when I tested it on a little ship. It then stopped shooting, but overview didn't change (still said it had taken hostile action vs me). When I tested again and jammed before they were in range to start shooting, it seemed like they lost their lock.

Hehe it was fun. I proceeded to have an afternoon of ratting against three or four Guristas Forlorn cruisers, jamming a prey item while charging up, fire a few volleys as I orbited a couple of times, then systematically jammed its buddies to break their locks.

I had a buddy in a Moa backing me up, but I still got all the bounty payouts xD

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Gregorius Goldstein
Queens of the Drone Age
#6 - 2017-03-08 09:21:40 UTC
ECM, even multi race, works on rats in level one and two missions.
Guess it's the higher level rats that don't care.
Ajem Hinken
WarFear Gaming
#7 - 2017-03-08 10:40:51 UTC
Gregorius Goldstein wrote:
ECM, even multi race, works on rats in level one and two missions.
Guess it's the higher level rats that don't care.

Huh. Perhaps they aren't strong enough for other rats?

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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#8 - 2017-03-08 11:43:20 UTC
I'm not a fan of using MWDs in PvE. I don't see much use in them in most PvE situations especially for smaller ships.

The MWD blows up your sig radius, kills your cap, and gives you way too much speed to make use of.

An AB you can leave on leave on while orbiting the larger ships in the spawn to stay under their guns and not take damage.

I will admit that this may just be a stylistic preference. So I would say try both options and experience the differences between them and draw your own conclusion.

Most of what else I didn't like about the original fit that you posted has been addressed. I just wanted to point out this one thing.

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Ajem Hinken
WarFear Gaming
#9 - 2017-03-08 21:36:42 UTC
ergherhdfgh wrote:
I'm not a fan of using MWDs in PvE. I don't see much use in them in most PvE situations especially for smaller ships.

The MWD blows up your sig radius, kills your cap, and gives you way too much speed to make use of.

An AB you can leave on leave on while orbiting the larger ships in the spawn to stay under their guns and not take damage.

I will admit that this may just be a stylistic preference. So I would say try both options and experience the differences between them and draw your own conclusion.

Most of what else I didn't like about the original fit that you posted has been addressed. I just wanted to point out this one thing.

MWD's make you go fast - very good for closing and firing off one volley, then shooting to 20-40 km away in the blink of an eye and repeating. I like them xD

They're more of a GTFO option or a range control option though. I don't have it on half the time - sometimes I forget it's even there.

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