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Can we have a faction marauder with drones as the primary weapon?
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Turrets Boomingtons
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2017-03-06 19:06:23 UTC
All weapon systems are covered by the Empire marauders (projectiles, missiles, hybrid, laser) except for drones. It would be odd and unbalanced for there to be another empire marauder that had good drone bonuses, so can we have a faction one?

It could be an upgraded Nestor (SOE) or an upgraded Rattlesnake (Guristas) and require both relevant battleship skills at 5. Also the normal marauder skills.

Is there any reason this could not be a thing? I, and a couple others I have talk to about the idea, think it would be awesome. Maybe that makes us blind to a reason it could not become a thing.
Garrett Osinov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#2 - 2017-03-06 19:54:05 UTC
Do you really want anything more powerful then Rattlesnake ?!?
Turrets Boomingtons
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#3 - 2017-03-06 23:34:17 UTC
As I understand it, marauders are already more powerful then the Rattlesnake. I would be happy with a Faction Marauder with a Nestor like haul too though.
Lucas41
SOMACOM
#4 - 2017-03-07 01:05:29 UTC
I actually wouldn't mind a new marauder class ship being introduced to the game.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#5 - 2017-03-07 03:44:24 UTC
Rogue Drone Marauder. Works for me...

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Mephiztopheleze
Laphroaig Inc.
#6 - 2017-03-07 07:02:11 UTC
I'd rather have a faction Black Ops battleship to be honest.......

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Soel Reit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2017-03-07 07:15:06 UTC
i would like battles with 10k people and no lag/tidi Cool
elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#8 - 2017-03-07 08:54:37 UTC
And I dream of flying Estamel's Modified Rattlesnake all day long but there are no purple shield extenders in the game yet Cry

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Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#9 - 2017-03-07 14:30:38 UTC
+1

Garrett Osinov wrote:
Do you really want anything more powerful then Rattlesnake ?!?

Not specifically more powerful but more flexible would work fine for me.
My thoughts would be add bastion ability, increase the drones bay to allow for more flexibility in your drones load and then adjust bonuses downward as needed to prevent it being OP. Further I would suggest this is based on the Domi hull not the rattle.
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#10 - 2017-03-07 16:41:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Arthur Aihaken
In all seriousness, the Rattlesnake should probably lose a launcher slot in the next balancing pass so that it ends up with a pair of utility highs (the Vindicator and Machariel also need a slight balance adjustment with 1-2 fewer turrets and the damage/rate of fire adjusted to compensate).

As much as I'd like a drone-based Marauder, having selectable insta-damage would probably be too op - especially if it was in the 1000-DPS range. Realistically, I don't think we'll see a Faction Marauder, either - since T2 and T3 seem to be limited to Empires. What is missing is a Caldari-Minmatar Pirate Faction (Thukker?) - something shield and projectile-based.

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Soel Reit
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2017-03-07 16:48:33 UTC
mach can be shield/projectile
ask crazy ruskies of LSH
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#12 - 2017-03-07 16:53:15 UTC
Soel Reit wrote:
mach can be shield/projectile

Yes, the Machariel can be effective with either a shield or armor tank in PvE (I think for PvP it's better-suited with an armor setup, though).

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Turrets Boomingtons
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2017-03-08 04:47:38 UTC
Donnachadh wrote:
+1

Garrett Osinov wrote:
Do you really want anything more powerful then Rattlesnake ?!?

Not specifically more powerful but more flexible would work fine for me.
My thoughts would be add bastion ability, increase the drones bay to allow for more flexibility in your drones load and then adjust bonuses downward as needed to prevent it being OP. Further I would suggest this is based on the Domi hull not the rattle.


The Domi hull would be cool. :D
Mina Sebiestar
Minmatar Inner Space Conglomerate
#14 - 2017-03-08 05:28:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Mina Sebiestar
Quote:
Caldari-Minmatar Pirate Faction (Thukker?)


Hybrid-drone combo check

Lazor-drone combo check

Missile-drone combo check

Projectile-drone combo.....

Make it so marauder no pirate yes new hull ABSOLUTELY.

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Garrett Osinov
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2017-03-08 10:16:44 UTC
Turrets Boomingtons wrote:
As I understand it, marauders are already more powerful then the Rattlesnake. I would be happy with a Faction Marauder with a Nestor like haul too though.


Then you are wrong. Rattlesnake outdamages any marauder already !
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#16 - 2017-03-08 12:17:28 UTC
Garrett Osinov wrote:
Then you are wrong. Rattlesnake outdamages any marauder already !

Yes, but damage is not the Marauder's forte - tanking is.

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Wolfgang Jannesen
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#17 - 2017-03-08 13:50:56 UTC
The unaddressed question in this thread is how the bastion module is going to effect your drones. I'm seeing some balance nightmares already
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#18 - 2017-03-08 17:33:40 UTC
Wolfgang Jannesen wrote:
The unaddressed question in this thread is how the bastion module is going to effect your drones. I'm seeing some balance nightmares already

Optimal range and falloff I would assume?

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elitatwo
Zansha Expansion
#19 - 2017-03-08 18:35:18 UTC
Wolfgang Jannesen wrote:
The unaddressed question in this thread is how the bastion module is going to effect your drones. I'm seeing some balance nightmares already


The Nightmare is well balanced and superior to a marauder class boat.

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Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#20 - 2017-03-08 22:47:58 UTC
elitatwo wrote:
The Nightmare is well balanced and superior to a marauder class boat.

Most of the Pirate battleships are.

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