EVE General Discussion

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Will we ever be able to meet other EVE players in stations? I thought this was a great concept, what happened to it?

If you can come up with a meaningful gameplay reason this would be of use, then it might happen.
Otherwise not a chance.

And so far no-one has come up with meaningful gameplay that would actually see significant use, and isn't just a more tedious way to do something existing.

It was too hard so ccp gave up.

You could run WiS in a different engine. Lets say when a player wants to leave captians quarter, he needs to go through a decontamination chamber for 1-2min. A pretty animation masks the loading bar, like when jumping through a stargate. In the background, the WiS application loads. It can use Unreal 4 or a similar engine.

We all decided that it was a dumb idea to begin with.

ill worry about what scam citizen is offering once it's actually offering something. CCP has at least until 2050 to start worrying.

they cound not get it remotely done in time for the intended launch but decided to go ahead with the micro transaction part so we could give them money in a subscription game to dress up our avatars in $60 monoclonals and boots no one could see. they then told us they would get to the WIS part later and were working hard on it despite the balance issues rampant in the rest of the game. This pissed enough of us off that many instantly unsubbed and those who didn't joined in on demonstrations within the game. the overall loss in revenue nearly killed CCP and were it not for the CSM it very well may have.



basically sore subject that CCP is not going to go near with a 10km pole and many of us who were there don't even want them to think about it. Eve is internet space ships CCP should focus more on them rather than barbie

^ This.

Everyone supported WiS, except for a elite cadre of nullsec cry-babies.

Unfortunately WiS coincided with a few other PR controversies like Monocle-gate and the "gold ammo" incident.

WiS was never bad. It just got caught up in the drama and was abandoned to pacify the nullsec cry-babies. Because the vast majority of Eve players dwell in nullsec and fly Titans or something.

The reason for the mass unsubs is not WiS.

Yes I agree the Incarna Expansion failed to deliver the WiS that was promised years ago known as Ambulation. At that time only a small part of the CCP staff was actually working on Incarna. Since the playerbase was raging about no expansions being released, CCP went ahead and released the content they had available even though it wasn't ready. WiS wasn't 'The straw that broke the Camel's back'. The Incarna Expansion and events resulting afterwards combined with problems previously active in-game is what helped ignite the mass unsubs.

Those mass unsubs were due to a lot of different things listed here in no particular order.

CCP constantly rushing out numerous expansions that were half finished and bugged, breaking existing content.
The 1001 Papercuts thread - large list of broken game mechanics and unfinished content being ignored since 2003.
CCP introducing NEX Store and MT - selling overpriced items for real money bypassing in-game player production.
Threat of 'Gold Ammo' and 'Gold Ships' enabling 'Pay to Win' exploitation.
CCP dividing available development resources to work on 3 different projects at same time.
The leaked inter-office memo 'Fearless Newsletter' = Greed is good.
CCP statement of Eve Online being viewed as the Golden Goose.
Forcing 3rd party programmers to pay real money for providing out of game Eve applications.
CCP failure to maintain their promise of 'Commitment to Excellence' on all future game content.
Showing players 'The Door' and removing option of choice, forcing player participation in Captains Quarters.
CCP attempting to diffuse Forum rage with excessive thread locking and banned accounts.
Releasing poorly written unoptimized code in the Incarna expansion resulting in massive client side issues.
CCP ignoring the player base resulting in poor Public Relations due to lack of communication.
Hilmar's statement - "Watch what they do, not what they say."

Basically Hilmar's statement became the rally cry for those mass unsubs. Because of that and with a large loan payment being due, CCP downsized their Company and placed most of their other projects on the back burner which included Avatar game play content. Later when CCP tried to generate game play for that content, they received large opposition by a vocal minority who once again started fanning the flames of the infamous 'Summer Of Rage'. As such CCP backed off again due to not wanting to incite another repeat of that situation. Basically CCP is gun shy now when it comes to Avatar game play content.

Also players seem to conveniently forget that for 18 months prior to Incarna most of the CCP Dev's were working on rewriting Eve's program code, changing it from Python to Carbon which currently allows Dev's to quickly change things and fix / remove bugs from the game. CCP's mistake was that they didn't keep the players informed about it. And it takes longer for new Dev's to figure out the old code and then replace it with new code, all the while still keeping the game online.

Eve Online was created with the intention of being a Virtual Reality set in a Futuristic SyFy Space Environment. That means more than just space ships.


DMC

OP, as long as I can non-consensually knock your drink over and loot your corpse at the bar because you don't have a New Order permit to walk in James 315's highsec station, I'm not technically opposed to WIS.

However, I am philosophically opposed on the basis that a space MMO should drive players toward . . . space. Not toward a bar in a station.