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New song: The hard way

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Kobodera
Soggy Bottom Balls
#1 - 2017-03-02 08:44:08 UTC
I am a happy ammature music creator and I just put this brand spanking new song up on soundcloud and I thought that it would be fun to get some response and constructive critique about it :)

https://soundcloud.com/kobodera/kobo-the-hard-way

Cheers!
Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#2 - 2017-03-02 17:34:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Sol epoch
Too frantic and wrong tempo, In other words average and repetative like thousands of others.

Start a journey and take us on it to it's conclusion not bang a nail in a wall continually.
Kobodera
Soggy Bottom Balls
#3 - 2017-03-02 21:01:34 UTC
Sol epoch wrote:
Too frantic and wrong tempo, In other words average and repetative like thousands of others.

Start a journey and take us on it to it's conclusion not bang a nail in a wall continually.


That was of course not the feedback I was hoping for... but I for one appreciate any kind of feedback simply because that is the only way to grow.

Could you give me an example of a song (within the same genre) that you feel is that journey you speak of? Because lets face it... it IS a very repetetive type of music by design
Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#4 - 2017-03-02 22:31:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Sol epoch
I would give you an example but the genre you seem to be going for is general!

So, How about I just put a journey from a deep house master.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPQmEHIlZMI

If this doesn't take you on a journey to places and thoughts then maybe it is not for you!
Kobodera
Soggy Bottom Balls
#5 - 2017-03-02 22:51:39 UTC
Sol epoch wrote:
I would give you an example but the genre you seem to be going for is general!

So, How about I just put a journey from a deep house master.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPQmEHIlZMI

If this doesn't take you on a journey to places and thoughts then maybe it is not for you!


I guess it is not for me. If I discount the singing then I would say that this song is way more repetetive than my own... I did some fast forwards throughout the song and you had that basic beat pretty much all the time.. but that is just my oppinion and I have never been much into deep house myself. I guess our tastes in music simply differs a bit and that is totally fine.

What I do appreciate thought is that you took the time to actually GIVE the feedback in the first place, and the example.

Thank you!
Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#6 - 2017-03-02 22:59:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Sol epoch
I think you missed the point of the example, It is about the journey and not just the beat as you put it!

try this and think deeper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RiLe43yIONI

This might be more appropriate to you! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdDsL0UQ0IQ
Sol epoch
HELVEGEN
#7 - 2017-03-05 10:28:58 UTC
Kobodera wrote:
I am a happy ammature music creator and I just put this brand spanking new song up on soundcloud and I thought that it would be fun to get some response and constructive critique about it :)

https://soundcloud.com/kobodera/kobo-the-hard-way

Cheers!



I now see that this statement is untrue seeing as you posted on 2013.06.18 20:02 that you was listening to it!
Indahmawar Fazmarai
#8 - 2017-03-05 12:44:01 UTC
Kobodera wrote:
I am a happy ammature music creator and I just put this brand spanking new song up on soundcloud and I thought that it would be fun to get some response and constructive critique about it :)

https://soundcloud.com/kobodera/kobo-the-hard-way

Cheers!


The rythm base is wrong. First, it's too loud and hides the foreground themes when thye start playing, and then it doesn't follows those themes.

I would suggest lowering the volume for the base and maybe give a try to more complex bases when the foreground themes start, like three-notes or four-notes bases.

morion
Lighting Build
#9 - 2017-03-05 14:04:55 UTC  |  Edited by: morion
Kobodera wrote:
Sol epoch wrote:
Too frantic and wrong tempo, In other words average and repetative like thousands of others.

Start a journey and take us on it to it's conclusion not bang a nail in a wall continually.


That was of course not the feedback I was hoping for... but I for one appreciate any kind of feedback simply because that is the only way to grow.

Could you give me an example of a song (within the same genre) that you feel is that journey you speak of? Because lets face it... it IS a very repetetive type of music by design


electronic / trance: genre

Safety Dance - Men Without Hats bang a nail in a wall continually + lyric

Nine Inch Nails - Closer (Director's Cut) lyic / layering / transitions / tempo

Enigma - Principles Of Lust + layering
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2017-03-06 15:19:18 UTC
In my dumbass opinion: not bad at all. Not the greatest, but I liked it. Could be used as the intro song to a video game or something.
Ares Desideratus
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#11 - 2017-03-06 15:31:21 UTC
I'm not, like, a classically trained musician or anything, but i would say the main thing it is missing is variation, it gets kind of repetitive and you wanna add something else to it, change it up midway through the song, like the first bit is the buildup, then you smash through the window of the soul into another realm with some other sound to compliment it, you need to drive that mother ****** home. Other than that it's basically good. Maybe the song dies down for a minute and we just chill and look at the stars, then someone whispers something cool, like "I chose the hard way, something something star way, to heaven," ****** lyrics I know but I just made them up in like two seconds, then KABOOM, the song picks back up and you're flying through the universe again at the speed of light. That's what you need to do. Also you need a climax, like a terminating point near the end of the song where it really picks up and finishes the job (the orgasm of the song, if you like), then everything just blows up and dies and the curtain is drawn and the song fades to black. That's it. Now it's sound like a formula. You don't necessarily NEED a climax, I'm just saying, in general, you need more variation. It's like you're scared to deviate from the path of the song. **** that path, just do whatever you feel like doing, take it someplace that doesn't make sense (that's how you find a new path), you don't have to stick with the same thing. Hope this helps, but it's just my dumbass opinion.