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How do you feel about null NAP trains?

Glad to see this, thanks.

Now...

Wormholes are working fine. We don't need a wormhole stabilizer, or stretcher or washer and dryer! Want more massive battles in W-space?


Make self-destructing ships inside POS shields impossible.


That is all it would take.

But I would like to point out, in wormholes now (as it stands) invasion (with the intent of kicking out the other party) means that the other people lose everything (either through self destruction or theft/pillage/plundering). This is pretty much the only space in Eve like that (Stations cant be destroyed - so you can *always* firesale your stuff - and almost be assured of a sale). Give us "no self-destructs w/in Pos Shields" and I can just about guarantee more invasions...

But please - WH fortress systems are that way because the players *make* them that way, and while difficult to invade, it is not impossible.

Like to hear how you feel about W-Space and the things that make us different than anyplace else in Eve.


Thanks

This. A thousand times over.

I've not forgotten the thread; just having a very busy RL weekend, folks. I will be back answering stuff ASAP.

my personal opinion on certain subjects discussed:

NPC reworking:
yes yes and yes, i too find it absurd that ratting in npc against the very faction your docking at is massively confusing.
RP wise theres a quick fix to sort out the confusion and thats to change the owners of those stations to intermediataries of those factions and not the factions themselves. RP wise these factions dont NEED stations, the stations are there to allow the communication and interaction between capsuleers. the stations dont need to be held by the faction but could be held by NPC corperations either within the faction or go-between corps/alliances like Interbus or even Sisters of Eve.

Then the possibility of docking up in these stations in 0.0 NPC space would be controlled by the standings to these Entities instead.

Supercap Balancing:
cut the bullshit with the bullshit EWAR frigs being able to effectively ECM or affect Supercaps. its just absurd! thats like saying me and 20 of my mates put together some white noise generators and plugged them into radio transmitters expecting to jam out radio communications on a Nimitz class aircraft carrier from a rowing boat. totally bullshit.
Seleene you talked about the rediculousness of rifters being able to lock down Supercaps, and in the meeting minutes was a suggestion that capitals should have a mod that can allow them to tackle and hold down other capitals/supers. WHY oh why just apply this logic to the EWAR immunity issue? Capital EWAR mods should be introduced (cause only capitals have the massive power requirements for electronic warfare of that magnitude)
CCP should know that more and more pilots will get to the SP requirements to fly and use supercaps... its just pure logic. but an outright immunity to a particular legitimate form of PVP mechanics should never have been green lit.

Drake nerf:
it does do a lot of things better than most battlecruisers. CCP also need to realise that the Drake Army is one of the core fleet paper-scissor-rock types being the natural counter to aHACs. albeit with the new tengu fleets you could say that drake armies have been superseeded by it. Even so, changes to the drake will affect this balance, and cause a resurgence in some form.

It's not just the preview function, it happens if you wait long enough and press post as well. Whomever wrote (or adapted) this forum has done a seriously lacklustre job.

I'm not going to bother testing, but I wouldn't be surprised if the problem is taking more than 5 minutes to write a post, which happens way too often as I sit and think and retype and reformulate posts. The habit now is ctrl-a+ctrl-c before any post or preview, just in case. It's saved quite a lot of posts from the posting god's wrath so far.

EVE is a sandbox and I've always been against anything that limits players from doing what they want on a social level; I prefer to offer players options and alternatives that might cause them to WANT to change their behavior. I think that the game would benefit greatly from a formal 'Treaty System' such as the one that was theory-crafted for Apocrypha, cut for Dominion and scrapped all-together in Tyranis. I think that there should be benefits to forming 'coalitions' with other alliances but I also believe that there should be reasons to keep such entities from bloating. Such incentives / penalties / whatever would depend a lot on how artificial you'd want to make the effects of being involved in such a treaty, but it's certainly do-able. I would much prefer something like this than some kind of bizarre limitation made by CONCORD that says, "You can only have 10 blues!"



Even without the implications as you suggest for WH space, I quite like this idea! I'm definitely going to find out if this can be done (I bet it can).



Wormholes are one of the few things in EVE that I think need more of a scapel than a chainsaw when it comes to surgery / improvements. They are working pretty much as always intended and I take no small amount of pride in that fact. The design team made some very key decisions that have proven to be smart ones over time in how WH space works. Personally, when I hear about players setting up little fortress systems I think, "Good for them!". It's not easy to logistically entrench yourself out there in the darkness of WH space and, as you say, it's difficult to uproot a corp, but not impossible. Some of the best battle reports come out of WH space as well. So, no, I'm not really wanting to see a change made to this dynamic just because, "We need some changes." I'd much rather see the current iteration of WH's evolve.

The top dudes in the Art Dept are all well aware of the 'Dead Horse' thread and all the other incarnations of this. Doing modular POSs is something that would basically require the entire Art team a full expansion or more to work on. However, there are a lot of things depending on Art right now, including the V3 skinning of all the CURRENT art in the game, new effects work, you name it. Once game design comes up with a plan for how modular POSs might actually be implemented alongside other coming changes, that's when Art will get the green light to start working in earnest. I don't think I'm breaking any NDA by saying, hell yes, they are considering it. It's something I know they'd love to be able to do.

This dude TLDR'd most of what I would have said. But, I'm still going to say a few things!



You've just pointed out a couple things that have been making me rage since a lot earlier than 2006. I mean, why the hell is the only way for me to raise my sec status by going out and blapping random NPCs? The reason that Seleene still has a neg sec status today is because way back in 2004, I went on a short bit of piracy before turning merc and the madness of wasting ammo on NPCs (even lasers) did my head in and still does.

Yes, I think there should be increased interaction and opportunity, along with consequences for the choices that you make. However, as with everything from working on a chain gang to religion or whatever metaphor you like, there should be the possibility of atonement. Failing that, I should be able to pay off some dumb Serpentis clerk to clean up my records. So, yeah, I want to bribe NPCs among other things.

sup bro?

(did the questions have to be related to the topic?)