Science & Industry

It's not missing at all. On the fuzzworks site that's the Isk/m3 column. The mining lasers pull the same volume on each cycle, so looking at the value per m3 of the ore gets you a figure that's proportional to the ISK/cycle.

No they don't. You can check it out for yourself.

There are also other important factors to consider to get more accurate and exact and well, yes, more scientific results.

The Isk/m3 column you refer to only includes the amount of ISK per cubic meter of the Ore itself.
It does not include or refer to the value of ISK per hour, or the said Volume in said cubic meter volume referred to per hour that is extracted.

For instance, Veldspar value can be 70% of Kernite value in ISK/hour (overall ISK per hour value) while it's volume is less than Kernite, but on the olther hand, its volume and mining cycle is faster than Kernite.
The ISK/m(v)3 value does not take that relative 70% ISK/hour (final overall ISK/hour) value .


2.

A value per m3 of the ore which is a figure that's proportional to the ISK/cycle yes, however that is not the final ISK/hour value, and may not be directly proportional, plus, the ISK/m3 also may not be proportional to the ISK/hour value

2.a

No, mining lasers do not pull the same volume on each cycle for different Ore.
Mining lasers do pull different volume per Ore per cycle, and those cycle differ per fit and ship spec + Ore hold +Booster, etc..


2.b

That though, yes it does indeed get you a figure that's proportional to the ISK/cycle, however, and again, and if or if not for the third time, or even more times, not to say ad infinitum, that very exact same ISK/cycle figure you do yourself so professionally well refer to is not, and again, I do repeat it again .NOT. the same thing as the final overall value of the ISK/hour value, of an Ore (yes mineral ore that is, with an upper-case "O"), even though it is also related to it, and no I won't have the time to go into it into further details here.

Those figure are good to get started, yes, but should not be used to mislead new pilots into drafting themselves false ideas and goals which could hinder their potential.

"They pull different numbers of units of each ore", exactly, and each ore has different value.
The same volume as which same volume of what, when, how and why, not to omit or mislead here.
The m3 per cycle of Veldspar is different than Kernite.
Sure, you get the same cycle time for the same module(s), however, the final number of units and values are different.
Your relations are good, or at least fairly good overall, however the level of exactitude is off.

Plus, if it takes you 4 hours or 3 days to count it, how can you tell it's a higher return and by how much before than after?
Can you even calculate how long it takes you to count it accurately and, if so, to which accuracy level or ratio?

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"not units of ore per cycle"
units of ore per cycle is directly related to the ISK/m3 which is directly related to the m3/cycle.

"and their cycle times are fixed"
yes, but fixed in time per cycle, with different amount of unit and different ISK/hour per Ore.

"they don't vary by ore".
The Ore value varies even though the m3 per cycle is the same, as well as the market value.
Add transport , storage + logistic cost to get the final overall ISK/hour value of an Ore.
Players posting suggested,
1-add or compare to the compression value (in citadel) (of an Ore, compared to 100 units for conversion, into the compressed Ore)
2-add other factors like, market change, demand or lack of supply, etc.

+I forgot to include that, as I was about to get Compression Structure, or fuel processing Structure, citadels were introduced to keep the same "thriving" competition, as if to deter me from trying, or make it more worthless to try.

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"... 6750 units of veldspar per cycle."
You know very well that you will not fit 6,750 unit of Ore in your Cargo hold.
Not in 1 cycle, not in 10 cycles...

"Scordite is 0.15m3,..."
= 33.3% of 0.1m3, 0.15m3 = 33.3% more than 0.1m3 (per unit).


... specific to Ore, until refining / compressed Ore capacity is achieved , I have never compressed Ore since 2012, which would soon be 5 years . (Plus the 'A' key on my keyboard is simply hacked.)

Furthermore, specific to exact figures, not general rounded up approximation, with finite numbers, not equation with various unverified value, not a 70% fictitious approximation rate used as beacon to compare with real exact values (including storage and transfer cost and time).

You need to make sense, as FW were introduced 7-8 years ago? So your devaluation is irrelevant.
And yes, goons ruined mining for new players, so now they should pay new players to play this game.

Therefore you know very well why mining Kernite yields more ISK per hour than mining Veldspar.
It is not so much a matter of unit per m3 than a matter of the value of the Kernite Ore on the player market compared to the value of the Veldspar Ore per hours.

Yes, I agree, however, due to differences in the raw Ore volumes per units, and the ship miners (mining) modules functioning on a volume per time frame system (or ratio), the value of the Ore per units, are only reflected in the value of the minerals in as long as those minerals can be obtained by the pilot mining the Ore.

I have tested this myself, and even made test containers with cycles content payout, and did the hauling , refining (yes, without reprocessing so far, and orders (yes, all direct orders back then, but all at the same price).

So,
I can add the numbers to convey a more accurate figure,
but I am sure you already know this.

What it comes down to is the actual ISK per hour that the actual pilot is able to get, even if an Alpha pilot.
I have never done it yet, but I know how I could mine my way to be an Omega pilot with no external support.

Anyhow.

The point is that the Kernite value listed only includes the value for the stacks of 100,
which btw helps the refiners who pay for the Ore to decide on the price that best suits the trades to prosper no doubt.

It goes both ways, the better the deal the miner gets on his Ore, the more he can mine, and the better the deal the refiner can offer since he can get a higher volume for the said mineral he will be able to extract for the same Ore offered.

Both players demand money, both players offer services, one in the form of Ore for sale on the market, or to a private customer, the other in the form of money, that , being in-game ISK, and the money he demands comes from the value of the minerals he is able to refine from the Ore, due to his higher Ore refining skills.

Again, the reason the Kernite is worth more comparatively is not only because of the change in the price per units offered, or the price per volume, but rather to the fact that the Kernite volume is also larger than the volume of Veldspar per unit.
What this means is that, even though the miners mine the same volume per same amount of time, and yes, even if not using specialised strip miners, the volume per units of the Kernite being greater than the volume per units of the Veldspar (the lowest at 0.1, btw) the value of the amounts of units mined in total is greater than the amounts listed on the list , since they do not include the change in those variables.