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Trevor Dalech
Nobody in Local
Deepwater Hooligans
#21 - 2017-02-28 06:17:22 UTC
I wonder what it would take to suicide gank a POCO...
Lucas Lucias
Taishi Combine
Astral Alliance
#22 - 2017-02-28 06:58:58 UTC
Beast of Revelations wrote:
...then why do they allow the plethora of POCOs, player-owned structures, and whatever else to exist in their space? Do all of these things exist with CODE's blessing? Does CODE enforce a tribute payment system (a tax) in order to place and operate structures in their space?

I'm actually not [necessarily] bashing CODE here. I'm not a miner, and I've never lost anything to CODE to my knowledge. I'm simply saying, you don't truly 'own' highsec... unless and until you actually, well, 'own' it. So if structures and whatever else exist in highsec without your blessing, I would say to CODE - 'get to work.' Start enforcing your will. Back up your claims of highsec ownership. Then my hat will be off to you. Otherwise... not so much.

I have no idea whether this question has been posted on the forums or not before. But I personally haven't seen it. It's a question that popped into my head is all.


Simple really, a lot of the hisec POCO's are owned by alt corps of war dec alliances, CODE does not have the ability to attack them, they would get utterly smashed. So all CODE does is gank poorly tanked mining ships mostly flown by low SP characters or new players and state rather grandly that they own hisec. It is meaningless twaddle... Roll
Ima Wreckyou
The Conference Elite
Safety.
#23 - 2017-02-28 08:04:40 UTC
Clockwork Robot wrote:
About once a week, someone in CODE will decide the attention-o-meter is getting on the empty side, and they'll make a thread talking about CODE, and about a billion dumbasses will run up in it, all tripping all over themselves to talk about how uninterested in CODE they are.

You see right trough us. OP is a CODE. spy

Evil RatKid
Kaybella Hakaari
State War Academy
Caldari State
#24 - 2017-02-28 08:29:36 UTC
If you named a POCO "Autopiloting Obelisk," do you think CODE. would drop by for a visit?
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#25 - 2017-02-28 16:41:15 UTC
Clockwork Robot wrote:
About once a week, someone in CODE will decide the attention-o-meter is getting on the empty side, and they'll make a thread talking about CODE, and about a billion dumbasses will run up in it, all tripping all over themselves to talk about how uninterested in CODE they are.

I wish CODE would stop, but that probably won't happen until CCP declares CODE threads like AFK Cloaker threads. More than enough examples of how this entire thread will play out are available to be searched on the forms. At some point, it is okay to stop having the same conversation over and over and over again.

How's your CODE. alt faring?

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Elenahina
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2017-02-28 17:50:29 UTC
Trevor Dalech wrote:
I wonder what it would take to suicide gank a POCO...



Questions like that are how you get aneurysms.

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MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#27 - 2017-02-28 19:51:56 UTC
Elenahina wrote:
Trevor Dalech wrote:
I wonder what it would take to suicide gank a POCO...



Questions like that are how you get aneurysms.


15,000,000 HP if I recall. 10mil, 2.5mi, 2.5 mil

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Aiwha
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#28 - 2017-02-28 20:18:36 UTC
So divide that number by the alpha of a talos.

Sanity is fun leaving the body.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#29 - 2017-02-28 20:47:26 UTC
Aiwha wrote:
So divide that number by the alpha of a talos.

OVERRRR 9000!!!!
Jk I didn't do the maths :effort:

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Bing Bangboom
DAMAG Safety Commission
#30 - 2017-02-28 20:56:15 UTC
Perhaps the OP, or one of the very helpful forum posters who always reassure each of us how the New Order of Highsec (not just the CODE. alliance) is dying, dead or never really existed, will point out where POCOs violate the Code.

We enforce the New Halaima Code of Conduct. To do that, we had to take control of all of highsec. Once we did that we just continue to enforce the Code. Nothing could be simpler. Why complicate basic governance with such questions?

Highsec is worth fighting for.

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Clockwork Robot
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#31 - 2017-02-28 21:22:33 UTC
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Clockwork Robot wrote:
About once a week, someone in CODE will decide the attention-o-meter is getting on the empty side, and they'll make a thread talking about CODE, and about a billion dumbasses will run up in it, all tripping all over themselves to talk about how uninterested in CODE they are.

I wish CODE would stop, but that probably won't happen until CCP declares CODE threads like AFK Cloaker threads. More than enough examples of how this entire thread will play out are available to be searched on the forms. At some point, it is okay to stop having the same conversation over and over and over again.

How's your CODE. alt faring?



I haven't touched it Dom. I still find EvE to be a bit intimidating. Plus, NITC school started.

I didn't say I had a problem with CODE, Dom. I merely said that the... Forum meta is silly, and gives the impression of a circle-jerk.


You're all fun people. You don't need the RP and associated shenanigary.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#32 - 2017-02-28 21:30:16 UTC
Clockwork Robot wrote:
Dom Arkaral wrote:
Clockwork Robot wrote:
About once a week, someone in CODE will decide the attention-o-meter is getting on the empty side, and they'll make a thread talking about CODE, and about a billion dumbasses will run up in it, all tripping all over themselves to talk about how uninterested in CODE they are.

I wish CODE would stop, but that probably won't happen until CCP declares CODE threads like AFK Cloaker threads. More than enough examples of how this entire thread will play out are available to be searched on the forms. At some point, it is okay to stop having the same conversation over and over and over again.

How's your CODE. alt faring?



I haven't touched it Dom. I still find EvE to be a bit intimidating. Plus, NITC school started.

I didn't say I had a problem with CODE, Dom. I merely said that the... Forum meta is silly, and gives the impression of a circle-jerk.


You're all fun people. You don't need the RP and associated shenanigary.

I'll explain the whys next time I see you
You'll see why we proceed how we proceed

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Ptraci
3 R Corporation
#33 - 2017-03-01 03:43:17 UTC
CODE owns hi sec? Lol yeah, and Donald Trump owns New York.
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#34 - 2017-03-01 12:25:36 UTC
Ptraci wrote:
CODE owns hi sec? Lol yeah, and Donald Trump owns New York.

James 315 was elected by proxy in 2012, so yes, he owns highsec Cool

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MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#35 - 2017-03-01 13:58:01 UTC
Sounds about as intimidating as General of the Salvation Army or the Admiral of Old Navy,

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Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#36 - 2017-03-01 14:27:25 UTC
Aiwha wrote:
So divide that number by the alpha of a talos.


Why a talos? Pick a .5 system as they have better planets. Get in Coercers as dessies cost far less and this would be a DPS race, where you get as much DPS in. Plus I believe customs office have standard resists so using EM for the shields is best.

Once the shield hits 25% it enters reinforcement more. After the wait return with coercers till the shield is down then catalysts most likely for armor and hull.

The real danger though would be CCP. Given the ships required, you would trigger enourmous concord spawns which could overload the system. In the least you should petition ccp to reinforce the more and warn them of the action. Otherwise they may get mad for the excessive lag created.
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
#37 - 2017-03-01 15:02:00 UTC
Neuntausend wrote:
Have you read the actual code? I do not see why POCOs would be in violation of the code, and if they are not in violation of the code, why would CODE. not allow them? CODE. are a very lawful bunch.


once pi is set up its basically a bot like action esp in hisec, long on once in a while reset all timers and log off, eventually collect what was made.

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Hazel TuckerTS
Doomheim
#38 - 2017-03-01 16:36:36 UTC
YAWN..................code is dead...

kiss kiss bang bang
Dom Arkaral
Bannheim
Cuttlefish Collective
#39 - 2017-03-01 16:46:31 UTC
^^^^^^^
Ayyy another one

Keep on dreaming little one... we're not going anywhere Cool

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Keno Skir
#40 - 2017-03-01 16:51:46 UTC
Beast of Revelations wrote:
...then why do they allow the plethora of POCOs, player-owned structures, and whatever else to exist in their space? Do all of these things exist with CODE's blessing? Does CODE enforce a tribute payment system (a tax) in order to place and operate structures in their space?

I'm actually not [necessarily] bashing CODE here. I'm not a miner, and I've never lost anything to CODE to my knowledge. I'm simply saying, you don't truly 'own' highsec... unless and until you actually, well, 'own' it. So if structures and whatever else exist in highsec without your blessing, I would say to CODE - 'get to work.' Start enforcing your will. Back up your claims of highsec ownership. Then my hat will be off to you. Otherwise... not so much.

I have no idea whether this question has been posted on the forums or not before. But I personally haven't seen it. It's a question that popped into my head is all.


Well the issue here is the postulation that CODE. actually do / believe the things they say they do / believe. You must remember that CODE. are role players who say a lot of things that fit in with their role play. They don't own anything or they'd be in nulsec with the other players who "own" space.

Please quit listening to rubbish in hisec local and talking on the forums as if it's meaningful, it is not Pirate

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