EVE New Citizens Q&A

It sounds to me like you are talking strictly about high sec corps and if you are then I agree with you. Get out of high sec and you'll find plenty of corps willing to help out players with free or replacement ships and you will also discover that Eve is a group game.

patience and flying cheap are the keys to this game even years down the road. I've been playing this game since 2009 and have 3 characters with well over 100 Million skill points each and I still mostly fly T2 fit, T1 standard ships. I own faction and T2 blinged out ships but those have been collecting dust in high sec for years. About the only time that I fly a T2 ship is when I am making a supply run to high sec in my blockade runner.

Probably the most watched PvP statistic in this game is kill efficiency which is the ratio of the isk value of your ships lost versus the ships that you have destroyed. You win at this game by doing more with less. If you are they type of player that can't let go of the WoW mentality and are focusing on getting to max level and getting 'decked out in purples" before you even try to do anything then you will wind up leaving this game eventually anyway.

Players that come to this game liking bling and thinking that they can buy their way to glory typically don't last long. It's consistent enough that many of us vets don't even bother trying to teach them or at least not much. We'll tell them once or twice and then just wait for them to rage quit.

OP, lemming master is a good example of a poor attitude and how not to be.

Then I have no idea what you are talking about. You mention "" the "Corp problem """ earlier as if it were a known thing that I should be familiar with and I am not. Eve is a group game and you need to find a good group to play with or this game will suck. Most other games you can play for years solo. Be it most other MMOs or console FPSs, most games have queueable PvP with respawn mechanics that work well for people looking for instant gratification and minimal social interaction.

In Eve if you want to do well in this game and have fun doing so you will need to find a good group of friends to play with and you will also need to get involved and make something happen. This involves effort on your part. You will need to seek out people doing what you want to be doing and spend some time investigating the corp and it's players. Hanging out in their public channels and talking them up for a few weeks etc... No this won't be handed to you on a silver plater like all the queueable content in other games but to me the fact that you and your friends have to make stuff happen makes it all the more worth it.

To me this game obviously heavily favors group effort. Anyone that says otherwise I assume hasn't been involved in living in a wormhole or living deep in null sec. Those types of game play require huge amounts of cooperation just to get by on a day by day basis not to mention thrive and succeed.

It is the game that most other MMOs try and copy. Eve is 6 months older than WoW and therefore it had no influence on the original development of this game. It is one of the few place in MMO gaming that has not been largely corrupted by influence from that game.

When I see or hear of behavior that has been programmed into players by all those other games that are roughly the same I will call it out. It's not about name calling or criticism I'm trying to help new players distinguish between things that they generally have learned from their experiences in Eve from things that they have brought to Eve from other games. Especially those habits that don't work here.

I am not claiming to be right nor the authority on all things Eve. I'm just offering my perspective. My perspective comes from years of experience but those years I understand can also bring the "bitter vet" syndrome. So take what I say with a grain of salt but don't just dismiss it out right.

All I am really trying to do is let the OP know that if he wants to enjoy the game he can't think of it like an "investment". He will need to go out and get involved. He will need to put in effort to have fun with others. His enjoyment of this game will be directly related to how much he puts into it, however the effort should not be work, it should be fun the entire time. This is a game if he's not having fun then he's doing something wrong. The idea of investment into a game makes me giggle.

When I was younger I used to mountain bike with friends a lot. It involved a lot of preparation and traveling to good spots and then lots of physical effort once we got there. Never once did I look at it like I was "investing" my time into mountain biking. I did it because I enjoyed it. Mountain biking was the payoff that the "investment" of working at my job offered me.

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I'm just telling the OP to go out there and get involved and not try to solo the game in high sec. Have fun with other players and if it feels like you are "investing" your time then you are doing something wrong. We come to Eve to "spend" time or "waste" time not "invest" it.

I wasn't trying to go as far as call it "neglect or mislead". What I'm trying to convey is that it usually takes time for a new player to find a Corp that works for them. This means we can't safely assume a supportive Corp is always available for a new player, and hence that "find a nice Corp", while it may not be bad advice, doesn't necessarily work out as good advice either.

This is what I called the "Corp problem" earlier. I view it as one of the constraints on a smooth introduction to EVE.

I don't believe there's a "magic wand" for this of course, but I can't help thinking it could be made a lot easier in exchange for a modest effort.

I dunno mate judging by your OP you won't have the "minerals" for EvE. I'm not trying to be rude just pointing out EvE is famously infuriating which is one of the things most of us like about it. It's unforgiving, harsh and long (which is indeed what "she" said..).

Cya out there maybe

I just play EVE a bit. Works fine for me. If you don't want to earn billions of ISK, don't care for your killboard and don't need to fly one of the biggest ships everything is fine. Just fly around, meet other players and have fun. Some Alliances even have free T1 ships, just go for it.

Actually it's not true anymore. You can grind ISK and buy skill injectors.

Don't let these guys fool you...
EVE is a PvP only game, you are not safe anywhere.

You have 2 options: join the grievers or become content for their game.

Everything else is only possible if you accept you cannot play this game in peace.

Nope

Seriously though, this game is addictive if it's your style. A saying I remember is, "EVE players never truly quit, they just go on break."