EVE General Discussion

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Your game is a mirror image of real life. Much like sci fi. Do you think aliens really exist? Roddenberry used Trek to make social commentary about current events, and get away with it, because it's 'fiction.'

There are no aliens. You're it.

Arnon, like the rest of Highsec, belongs to James 315 and therefore the Code will continue to be enforced there.

As for the AT, I fear we may have only trolled the small percentage of the EVE community that actually gives a crap about arena pvp.

Hey! I am a Carebear and I do care.

I'm not from Caresalot though, nor am I from the Forest Of Feelings. I am from a couple blocks past Nobody Gives A Shirt, from the Special Social Sewer. The local cafe has four turtle soup with shredded rat tartar.

I will bite, simply put I did not go to Jita or Amarr until the Goons had got bored and went back to Rorqual mining, and your slow and evident decline is pretty evident, it goes alongside the decline of hisec, which is really now just a couple of major market hubs and little else.

So the CODE won what exactly? Another couple months of activity, well done clap clap...

Indeed and sometimes that content just means idly mining in highsec and watching the rest of the universe go by.
As uncomfortable as that may be to some.

We have to make the sand too.

I am afraid, that is not content. At least that is not content in and of itself. The only reason that activity is at all interesting is that it takes place in a universe where the ore you are spawning into it has some utility and some value to that player and the other players in the shared universe. As uncomfortable as that fact may be to some, it is true. Anyone can log onto the test server and mine ore in 100% safety if they want to watch the pretty mining lasers and let time pass by, but no one does because mining without reward or risk isn't content or playing the game: it is pressing F1 and watching a pretty graphical effect CCP software engineers built.

So if you are going to interact with the shared universe, the shared universe has to be able to interact with you. That doesn't mean you have to always be balls-deep in heart-racing PvP fleet battles, but you have to be doing stuff for a reason. People who agitate for and have succeeded in getting most of the content-creation tools nerfed out of highsec have done a great disservice for the game. I am willing to be that an order of magnitude more players have been bored out of the sandbox by not finding, or not having player-driven content find them, than the number who quit because their mining wasn't "idle" enough for them.

Content, and player-created content at that, is the life-blood of the game. There is a place in New Eden for players who prefer to create, rather than destroy, or gather rather than fight. But there isn't a place for players who expect to interact with the other players only on their own terms, or to make an impact on New Eden while at no risk of losing anything. This is an MMO, and that means trouble and content might find you and disrupt your game play. That is what makes this game interesting: cooperating and competing with the other players. Sometimes that competition takes place using a mining ship in an an asteroid belt, but don't mistake the act of mining itself as content itself. The content is in getting that ore before and more efficiently than the other guy, while avoiding those other guys who want to explode you or sell you a permit, before selling it to yet another guy for some currency to trade with someone else for something you want.

The content is limitless - the sandbox is only bound by your imagination. I do agree the game could use some more conflict drivers and/or objectives, but you can attack or cooperate with the other players to do whatever you want.

You don't have to be an aggressor. You can be a builder. You can be like the Signal Cartel and be a bunch of pacifist explorers. Create some content anyway you'd like. Heck, this thread is about a giant head-fake about a theft that didn't occur - a player story that involved not a single round of antimatter being expended. Do whatever you like, even if that is just using Eve as a chat program.

That said, we all spend most of our time gathering, building and trading materials to make weapons of war. Therefore, some of that content has to be shooting and destroying each others' stuff and using those weapons of war. People need reasons to build stuff, and arming and re-arming sides of a fight is a great simulator of the economy and provider of purpose. Even if you prefer to be the arms maker or arms dealer, you need to have a demand for your product. I know that being the aggressor isn't everyone's cup of tea, but someone has to play that role and if you find yourself bored and bemoaning the game like our friend Dracvlad was back in this thread, give it a shot and pick a fight with someone. You'll be at least trying to make something happen in the sandbox which is better than everything just grinding to a halt and you stopping to log in.

First of all I said Goons ran burn Jita, not CODE and to be blunt this type of event is fairly boring as a concept.

The decline in hisec is that there are no reasons to be there apart from the market, this toon is in lowsec and my main toons are all in 0.0. The content in hisec is vapid and stale and CODE is part of that and CODE's decline is also part of that. In reality all that gets blown up is the indy alts of 0.0 players and people coming to hisec to shop or sell. Great content.

Just before DT we set up a kitchen sink fleet and chased PL off getting a number of kills in the process, that was fun and a lot more challenging.

It is our foremost duty to deliver only the true facts to the public - always. As mentioned previously, this announcement had to be posted on the official forums because many players are still unable to escape the echo chamber that they have been unfortunate to find themselves in, falling victim to fake news:


https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/5uqjqk/ganking_superstar_jason_kusion_robs_code_for_500b/ - 669 points, 383 comments as of the present moment;
https://www.reddit.com/r/Eve/comments/5vx8er/inn_article_the_death_of_burn_jita/ - 17 points, 19 comments.

This, gentlemen, is what embarrassed silence looks like.