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High Sec Ganking - CONCORD Balance request

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Erich Einstein
Swoop Salvage
#801 - 2017-02-27 23:11:56 UTC
Tengu Grib wrote:
Says he isn't against ganking, immediately proposes idea to make career ganking impossible.

Just admit you're risk averse and don't want risk in Eve.

Your ideas are bad and you should feel bad.


I know you want your cake and to eat it too but it just doesnt work that way when everyone's interests are involved.
Faylee Freir
Abusing Game Mechanics
#802 - 2017-02-27 23:16:47 UTC
Do you have an issue with almost all freighter gank victims being 5b+?

HTFU
Dark Lord Trump
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#803 - 2017-02-27 23:17:18 UTC
Erich Einstein wrote:
Tengu Grib wrote:
Says he isn't against ganking, immediately proposes idea to make career ganking impossible.

Just admit you're risk averse and don't want risk in Eve.

Your ideas are bad and you should feel bad.


I know you want your cake and to eat it too but it just doesnt work that way when everyone's interests are involved.

So where exactly do you consider the interests of the gankers? Or does "everyone" only include hisec carebears?

I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!
Erich Einstein
Swoop Salvage
#804 - 2017-02-27 23:18:11 UTC
Faylee Freir wrote:
Do you have an issue with almost all freighter gank victims being 5b+?


You must just be looking at the top 7 on zkill only.
Erich Einstein
Swoop Salvage
#805 - 2017-02-27 23:19:02 UTC
Dark Lord Trump wrote:

So where exactly do you consider the interests of the gankers? Or does "everyone" only include hisec carebears?


Repair your security status and you can gank for the next ten years...
Faylee Freir
Abusing Game Mechanics
#806 - 2017-02-27 23:22:31 UTC
Erich Einstein wrote:
Faylee Freir wrote:
Do you have an issue with almost all freighter gank victims being 5b+?


You must just be looking at the top 7 on zkill only.

No. Excluding Burn Jita, primary gank targets are 5b+. Exceptions are made at times of course.

HTFU
Erich Einstein
Swoop Salvage
#807 - 2017-02-27 23:38:20 UTC
Faylee Freir wrote:

No. Excluding Burn Jita, primary gank targets are 5b+. Exceptions are made at times of course.


https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98370861/
https://zkillboard.com/character/95034355/

Here are twitch videos for Kusion if you dont want to browse zkill:
https://www.twitch.tv/agsperry/videos/all

Nothing to do with burn Jita. This thread has cleared that up many times.
Quinn Hatfield
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#808 - 2017-02-27 23:57:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Quinn Hatfield
Erich Einstein wrote:
Faylee Freir wrote:

No. Excluding Burn Jita, primary gank targets are 5b+. Exceptions are made at times of course.


https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98370861/
https://zkillboard.com/character/95034355/

Here are twitch videos for Kusion if you dont want to browse zkill:
https://www.twitch.tv/agsperry/videos/all

Nothing to do with burn Jita. This thread has cleared that up many times.
Repeating yourself and dismissing the opinion of others clears up only one thing.

You're an idiot with an ego.

I don't burn bridges, I merely steal a bolt a day.
Erich Einstein
Swoop Salvage
#809 - 2017-02-28 00:03:00 UTC
Quinn Hatfield wrote:

Repeating yourself and dismissing the opinion of others clears up only one thing.

You're an idiot.


Did you have something meaningful to contribute... because I didnt see it in your post. o/
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#810 - 2017-02-28 00:03:01 UTC
Erich Einstein wrote:
Dark Lord Trump wrote:

So where exactly do you consider the interests of the gankers? Or does "everyone" only include hisec carebears?


Repair your security status and you can gank for the next ten years...


What? That doesn't even make any sense. How would repairing your sec status allow you to gank for ten years? Ganking kills your sec status REALLY fast. Even faster if you pod, and really, who doesn't love podding to destroy those juicy implants?

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#811 - 2017-02-28 00:04:23 UTC
Erich Einstein wrote:
Tengu Grib wrote:
Says he isn't against ganking, immediately proposes idea to make career ganking impossible.

Just admit you're risk averse and don't want risk in Eve.

Your ideas are bad and you should feel bad.


I know you want your cake and to eat it too but it just doesnt work that way when everyone's interests are involved.


You're right, everyones interests are involved, include the interests of the gankers. Prevent death by ganking really isn't that hard. I've never lost a freighter (period, not just to ganking) and I've been flying freighters for about 5 years now.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.
Erich Einstein
Swoop Salvage
#812 - 2017-02-28 00:05:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Erich Einstein
Tengu Grib wrote:

What? That doesn't even make any sense. How would repairing your sec status allow you to gank for ten years? Ganking kills your sec status REALLY fast. Even faster if you pod, and really, who doesn't love podding to destroy those juicy implants?


You make plenty of isk.... purchase tags and go do some mission running. Eve is not meant to be easy. Also dont pod and you can gank more without having to repair.
Quinn Hatfield
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#813 - 2017-02-28 00:31:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Quinn Hatfield
Erich Einstein wrote:
Quinn Hatfield wrote:

Repeating yourself and dismissing the opinion of others clears up only one thing.

You're an idiot.


Did you have something meaningful to contribute... because I didnt see it in your post. o/
I haven't seen any meaningful contributions from you either, so my post is entirely appropriate for this thread.

As others have observed, your idea is indicative of you not having a clue what you're talking about.

You've dismissed their opinions as irrelevant or off topic despite the contrary being true and told them that they are wrong when they have been proven to be correct. You've also provided little or no evidence that there is a problem to be solved, which is further compounded by your refusal to do any analysis in order to support the claims that you're making.

That you keep telling people to read the OP when they dispute your bullshit is a sure sign that you've got nothing to back up your claims outside of what you perceive to be true.

There's several words for people like yourself, the most appropriate begins with the letter N and ends with the letter T. I'll let you figure out what it is.

If I was you I'd curtail my ego and reread the posts of your detractors, you might learn something about the game and how it actually works, as opposed to how you think it works.

Toodles.

I don't burn bridges, I merely steal a bolt a day.
Faylee Freir
Abusing Game Mechanics
#814 - 2017-02-28 00:44:53 UTC
Erich Einstein wrote:
Faylee Freir wrote:

No. Excluding Burn Jita, primary gank targets are 5b+. Exceptions are made at times of course.


https://zkillboard.com/corporation/98370861/
https://zkillboard.com/character/95034355/

Here are twitch videos for Kusion if you dont want to browse zkill:
https://www.twitch.tv/agsperry/videos/all

Nothing to do with burn Jita. This thread has cleared that up many times.

Thats very selective data. Go through the kills for miniluv in the last year and you will see youre wrong. Miniluv makes up for the obvious majority of highsec freighter ganks. Probably best to use data from them?

HTFU
Erich Einstein
Swoop Salvage
#815 - 2017-02-28 00:55:57 UTC
Faylee Freir wrote:

Thats very selective data. Go through the kills for miniluv in the last year and you will see youre wrong. Miniluv makes up for the obvious majority of highsec freighter ganks. Probably best to use data from them?


Please share it and we can compare!
Faylee Freir
Abusing Game Mechanics
#816 - 2017-02-28 01:00:03 UTC
Erich Einstein wrote:
Faylee Freir wrote:

Thats very selective data. Go through the kills for miniluv in the last year and you will see youre wrong. Miniluv makes up for the obvious majority of highsec freighter ganks. Probably best to use data from them?


Please share it and we can compare!

What if the data proves youre wrong? What then?

HTFU
Erich Einstein
Swoop Salvage
#817 - 2017-02-28 01:06:20 UTC
Faylee Freir wrote:

What if the data proves youre wrong? What then?


One thing at a time...
Faylee Freir
Abusing Game Mechanics
#818 - 2017-02-28 01:11:11 UTC
Erich Einstein wrote:
Faylee Freir wrote:

What if the data proves youre wrong? What then?


One thing at a time...

lol

HTFU
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#819 - 2017-02-28 01:18:31 UTC
Erich Einstein wrote:
Tengu Grib wrote:

What? That doesn't even make any sense. How would repairing your sec status allow you to gank for ten years? Ganking kills your sec status REALLY fast. Even faster if you pod, and really, who doesn't love podding to destroy those juicy implants?


You make plenty of isk.... purchase tags and go do some mission running. Eve is not meant to be easy. Also dont pod and you can gank more without having to repair.


Your understanding of sec status and repairing it is hysterical.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#820 - 2017-02-28 01:20:44 UTC
Erich Einstein wrote:
Faylee Freir wrote:

Thats very selective data. Go through the kills for miniluv in the last year and you will see youre wrong. Miniluv makes up for the obvious majority of highsec freighter ganks. Probably best to use data from them?


Please share it and we can compare!


You mean the data that is readily available to the public? Do your own research, as clearly you have done next to none so far.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

Praise James, Supreme Protector of High Sec.