Missions & Complexes

TL;DR: Which L4 missions offer the best opportunity to sit mostly idle safely for 30-90 seconds after each and every ship kill?

The long version:

I always get most L4 missions mixed up in my head, even when reviewing Eve Survival.

I am going to be doing some intense stats-gathering on L4 mission rats, loot, and salvage. (Specific stats I haven't ever been able to find on the web before.)

As such, I need to kill a ship, then either alt-tab out, or write stuff down for a little bit in between EVERY ship kill. I'll be in a Marauder / bastion for tank. I'll manager triggers carefully, and keep an eye out for gankers.

Which missions would be best for this kind of thing? Thanks!

It's been awhile but
* IIRC, cargo scanners can tell you what is in an NPC (everything is doubled). I think it works on NPC wrecks/cans as well.
* EVE's LogServer can track everything you do, but is a pain for various reasons (you need to trim down what is logged, then you still create a hug log that takes forever to load into excel,)
* No idea about the new EVE LogLite tool.
* You'll still need to salvage in order to get salvage metrics.
* Don't forget about screenshots especially in conjunction with ship/cargo scanners.
* Getting a dev drunk and getting the loot/salvage tables is also an option?

Side note: given that multiple NPCs of the same type tend to spawn together, you just need to kill/salvage everything of type X and then record your metrics in batches.

"I haven't run across an L4 mission yet that I can't tank in my passive Rattlesnake, even with full room aggro. As Arthur noted, the magic number seems to be about 1000 DPS omni-tank. I think a Marauder with Bastion should be more than sufficient to provide a high degree of safety in any L4 mission regardless of how many triggers you trip and regardless how long you sit idle soaking up the damage."




This include the bonus room in Evolution? I find if you can survive this room, every other mission/room is doable. I think they may have nerfed the damage/AI for it in the last year, but still the toughest room I've found short of some of the Epic Arcs.

This sorta reminds me of when I was creating and or editing exploration site pages for Evelopedia and Epic Arc pages for Eve Survival. Creating and or editing the pages was started after I ran the content a couple of times before hand. That gave me a pretty good idea of how to approach it.

To start with I used the in-game notepad to record my info and had various 'guide' pages opened for reference with the in-game browser (In-game browser is gone now, play game in windowed mode and use out of game browser). Since I was sorta familiar with the content I would write or copy & paste the info from the 'guide' pages onto the notepad before activating the site / mission. While running the site I'd make the necessary corrections and update the notepad asap. The reason for using the in-game notepad is so you can still see what's happening on screen and if needed all the info will stay available in the notepad for future game session.

The trick for having time to up date the notepad while running the site is don't clear out all of the NPC's in each specific spawn. Keep a single Frigate or the spawn trigger active and just tank it while writing down info onto the in-game notepad. For amount and type of NPC's in each current wave or spawn, I'd use the Overview to count each hull class size by removing all the others with right click / remove ship or wreck type from Overview. I did that for each hull class size. Then I'd reset the Overview back to normal and continue on with the site.

That's pretty much it. Hope this info helps and good luck to you.


DMC

Cap stability seems to be indicated here more than DPS, just a thought.
If you can tank it and you are cap stable you can sit there literally for hours to write whatever you want to write.

They are not a popular option but NOS can be an side here, simply find an NPC that likes to stay close and use them to aid your cap.

Glad to hear that. Another tactic I forgot to mention is to use Covert Cloak for when you first warp into the site. I would warp in to 100km range, sit there cloaked and list the amount of ships, hull type and their range from the warp in beacon. This tactic is especially useful for listing a large group of NPC's or multiple groups of NPC's present on the initial warp in.


DMC

You're not giving up very much by skipping most wrecks. There are only six missions really worth salvaging: Gone Beserk, Damsel, Informant, Rogue Drone, Zazzmatazz and the Enemy series (or Empire-equivalent).

Would you put Dread Pirate in there or do you just kill Scarlet in the second room and leave?

now what kind of information are you planning to gather?
because this has anything you can ever want to know about rats in a mission.

1. Averages are all over the place, but generally outside of those missions listed - suck.
2. Salvaging also generally sucks.