Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Thanks for confirming they are all trolls.

In short, you're lazy and want NPC's to do it for you.

Improvement is subjective, in your opinion your idea is an improvement, in mine, and apparently that of others, it's not.

Concord's job is to deal with people that have a criminal timer, they do that admirably. The job of the Faction Police is to make life difficult for those that while having a low security status don't have a criminal timer.

That is the distinction that you're failing to see.

That part of your post made no sense, it deserved the reply it got.

Deal with it.

That's not what he said.

Reading comprehension, inject it and train to lvl 3.

check the killboard!

almost all of the freighters & jfs that died are carrying isk they shouldn't have, now tell me it's not the dumbest thing to do?

your turn, show me a proof that the 15min criminal timer is too long and therefore problematic? pls spare me your assumptions and gutfeels ok? i want solid proof.

Wrong, darling.

Also intelligent and not lazy freighters get targeted a lot, and it costs immense effort to mitigate as much risk to your ship as possible. A single worthless Blackbird can destroy all countermeasures available to freighters and detours, for instance, to circumvent an incoming gank cost money that no one compensates you for.

No freighter considers the current system fine and balanced; however, it is better than anything anyone has suggested to date as alternative or "better". Everything that has been suggested so far only makes matters worse for freighters in particular.

Actually, no darling.

key word here is 'intelligent', do you really think that intelligent JF pilots that understand EvE and love this game would ask more safety and at the same time kill a legit gameplay?

gee, you tell me, fitting istab, exp cargohold, shield power relay or mods other than bulkheads for JFs is dumb or not?

the hell are you talking about? black bird tries to jam your web before the gank starts he just called concord early he waits and you have already got your freighter out. not to mention the best ship in the game for this is also a recon and they have immense sensor strength. then you have one black bird cant do anything it has to have friends to actually do the gank




i find it very balanced and you can look through my KB in the first year or so i started using freighters i lost quit a few. now even though i use them more i haven't lost one in over two years.

or well if anything its not balanced in favor of the freighter. you need about a dozen pilots to have a chance against me and my alt. why is it with ganking people say "they don't have to risk much isk to kill my expensive stuff" no where else in EvE is more isk = better and less isk = worse. I can kill a 2b blinged cruiser in a frig worth 7mill. anyplace else in eve if you could easily take on 12+ players with only two and have a strong chance of winning you would here huge cries to nerf it no matter the value of each side

I consider myself intelligent and I ask for more consequences to ganking, not more safety for haulers. That's a big difference. Right now, there are no tangible consequences for ganking whatsoever: A ganker can keep docking in NPC stations, a ganker can keep stocking assets in NPC stations, a ganker can keep docking in an NPC station although he just killed another guy that is in that NPC corp, a ganker can just drop to any NPC corp in case of war decs and keep killing people and people in that same NPC corp. There are no consequences to their gameplay that matter (no, facpo does not matter, neither does their low sec status or killrights because they are only docked most of the time and only undocked for mere minutes or seconds).

Naturally, players should be responsible for punishing them but at the moment there is no feasible way to actually do that. That is something that ought to change, for instance, in form of lockouts from NPC stations and the "encouragement" to use player built structures that you can at least engage. It does not provide more safety for haulers, but actual consequences for gankers.

Blackpedro, I do not see that edge case as an issue at all. Ganking is a very conscious action because you actually have to enable the gank mode (safeties set to red). By consciously doing that, you know what will happen. Or should, because at the moment it is not all that well explained what can happen to you. Perhaps if an NPC lockout thing actually got implemented, this should be explained in more detail in the NPE/tooltips when you enable red safety.

So what you are saying is that a freighter can't fit up the freighter as a freighter, but rather as a speed boat instead before they can be smart?

OK .