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help! I got scammed 310M isk with courier contract.
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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#21 - 2017-02-27 08:29:27 UTC
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
Yeah he learnd a lesson:

The lesson is - CCP did not teach others before they start playing their game that there are SCAMMERS everywhere;
That you CAN'T DOCK in some stations (as they are not stations at all);

And tbh if someones admit "YEAH I SCAMMED YOU" - he should be punished;

Before you accept the contract it says you may not be able to dock in this station when going to a non npc station. Also scamming is promoted not punished what game have you been playing?



TBh? Why before u accept a contract the notification doesnt tell u that U DONT have docking permission(?)
With a possibility of docking permission change with a delay of 24h

Beacuse like u said - CCP promote the scamming behavior - its like Would court said "well done mr burglar"

You may very well ahve had docking permission when accepting the contract. The reason you can't keep it for 24 hours or something equally silly is things can change at the drop of a hat with standings and what not and the last thing you want is an enemy docking in your structure and using it as a base for 24 hours

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Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#22 - 2017-02-27 09:52:57 UTC
Not sure if OP was taught a cheap lesson, or OP is begging.

Falsely claiming to be a scam or gank victim is actually quite lucrative in mission hubs. Lots of suckers will give you 100-200 million.

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#23 - 2017-02-27 09:59:33 UTC
Sabriz Adoudel wrote:
Not sure if OP was taught a cheap lesson, or OP is begging.

Falsely claiming to be a scam or gank victim is actually quite lucrative in mission hubs. Lots of suckers will give you 100-200 million.

You know what does pay well though. Killing off the suspect baiters in blingy ships. Not only do you get the loot but the locals open their wallets quite often too. some for as much as the killmails are worth. Mission runners are much more generous than freighter pilots in my experience

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Tsutomi Sakuma
Doomheim
#24 - 2017-02-27 15:59:42 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
Yeah he learnd a lesson:

The lesson is - CCP did not teach others before they start playing their game that there are SCAMMERS everywhere;
That you CAN'T DOCK in some stations (as they are not stations at all);

And tbh if someones admit "YEAH I SCAMMED YOU" - he should be punished;

Before you accept the contract it says you may not be able to dock in this station


End of argument.
Areen Sassel
Dirac Angestun Gesept
#25 - 2017-02-27 17:35:25 UTC
That said, some way packages can be dropped off at a citadel without docking would be very welcome. I'm sure many of us use couriers to move our stuff around, given the constant supply of people willing to move small packages for peanuts, and it would be nice to be able to get our stuff moved to citadels.
MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#26 - 2017-02-27 20:06:36 UTC
The docking delay thing has war implications that are unpleasant, and therefore instant right now. Could be worse, you could have cynoed a carrier in and been denied docking... gank.. poof.

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Morgan Agrivar
Doomheim
#27 - 2017-02-28 07:28:24 UTC
Naye Nathaniel wrote:


And tbh if someones admit "YEAH I SCAMMED YOU" - he should be punished;

Innocence is cute...sometimes.

Ignorance is not cute at all.

Eve Online is not like all those other MMOs out there. It is as cold as an ex-wife unsatisfied with her alimony check.

And just as harsh...or so I have heard.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#28 - 2017-02-28 10:31:11 UTC  |  Edited by: Lan Wang
never trust anyone that has "Wang" in their name Shocked

apart from me that is, always trust me Big smile

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Scialt
Corporate Navy Police Force
Sleep Reapers
#29 - 2017-02-28 17:49:16 UTC
MadMuppet wrote:
The docking delay thing has war implications that are unpleasant, and therefore instant right now. Could be worse, you could have cynoed a carrier in and been denied docking... gank.. poof.



This has always been a good reason... but a poster a few posts up had a good idea. What if citadels had a "delivery box"... essentially a can that was deposit only where deliveries could be dropped off without docking?
Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#30 - 2017-02-28 19:24:12 UTC
Scialt wrote:
MadMuppet wrote:
The docking delay thing has war implications that are unpleasant, and therefore instant right now. Could be worse, you could have cynoed a carrier in and been denied docking... gank.. poof.



This has always been a good reason... but a poster a few posts up had a good idea. What if citadels had a "delivery box"... essentially a can that was deposit only where deliveries could be dropped off without docking?


Don't know tbh. Idea has merit why don't you go think it through a little. Flesh it out a little more and put it in the features and ideas section. Who knows we may even see this come to pass if it's not stupidly hard to code for some reason

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MadMuppet
Critical Mass Inc
#31 - 2017-02-28 20:24:14 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Scialt wrote:
MadMuppet wrote:
The docking delay thing has war implications that are unpleasant, and therefore instant right now. Could be worse, you could have cynoed a carrier in and been denied docking... gank.. poof.



This has always been a good reason... but a poster a few posts up had a good idea. What if citadels had a "delivery box"... essentially a can that was deposit only where deliveries could be dropped off without docking?


Don't know tbh. Idea has merit why don't you go think it through a little. Flesh it out a little more and put it in the features and ideas section. Who knows we may even see this come to pass if it's not stupidly hard to code for some reason


I can see it now. Fly in to the ring with your ship. Click on the 'unload cargo in to drop box'.

A circle with a timer starts over your ship, visible to all around you. "Unloading Cargo". No modules can be online while you do it. Maybe make it 1 second of timer for every 1000m3 of cargo you are offloading. That would like 50 seconds to offload a packaged battleship.

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Pix Severus
Empty You
#32 - 2017-02-28 20:29:52 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Scialt wrote:
MadMuppet wrote:
The docking delay thing has war implications that are unpleasant, and therefore instant right now. Could be worse, you could have cynoed a carrier in and been denied docking... gank.. poof.



This has always been a good reason... but a poster a few posts up had a good idea. What if citadels had a "delivery box"... essentially a can that was deposit only where deliveries could be dropped off without docking?


Don't know tbh. Idea has merit why don't you go think it through a little. Flesh it out a little more and put it in the features and ideas section. Who knows we may even see this come to pass if it's not stupidly hard to code for some reason


There is a mechanic that already exists in the game that allows progress/completion of a mission when an item is deposited into a can. It doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility.

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Noragen Neirfallas
Emotional Net Loss
#33 - 2017-02-28 20:46:53 UTC
Pix Severus wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Scialt wrote:
MadMuppet wrote:
The docking delay thing has war implications that are unpleasant, and therefore instant right now. Could be worse, you could have cynoed a carrier in and been denied docking... gank.. poof.



This has always been a good reason... but a poster a few posts up had a good idea. What if citadels had a "delivery box"... essentially a can that was deposit only where deliveries could be dropped off without docking?


Don't know tbh. Idea has merit why don't you go think it through a little. Flesh it out a little more and put it in the features and ideas section. Who knows we may even see this come to pass if it's not stupidly hard to code for some reason


There is a mechanic that already exists in the game that allows progress/completion of a mission when an item is deposited into a can. It doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility.

I mean it seems reasonable to me. not the usual make it safer

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Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#34 - 2017-03-01 09:20:33 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Scialt wrote:
MadMuppet wrote:
The docking delay thing has war implications that are unpleasant, and therefore instant right now. Could be worse, you could have cynoed a carrier in and been denied docking... gank.. poof.



This has always been a good reason... but a poster a few posts up had a good idea. What if citadels had a "delivery box"... essentially a can that was deposit only where deliveries could be dropped off without docking?


Don't know tbh. Idea has merit why don't you go think it through a little. Flesh it out a little more and put it in the features and ideas section. Who knows we may even see this come to pass if it's not stupidly hard to code for some reason


i think this is actually going to be added into citadels

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Areen Sassel
Dirac Angestun Gesept
#35 - 2017-03-01 15:56:03 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Scialt wrote:
This has always been a good reason... but a poster a few posts up had a good idea. What if citadels had a "delivery box"... essentially a can that was deposit only where deliveries could be dropped off without docking?

Don't know tbh. Idea has merit why don't you go think it through a little. Flesh it out a little more and put it in the features and ideas section. Who knows we may even see this come to pass if it's not stupidly hard to code for some reason

I don't think Scialt need bother any more than I did, the reason being, the idea is already well known. I half think I read about it first from a dev. :-)
Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#36 - 2017-03-01 19:44:39 UTC
THTILB T wrote:
may i have my isk back?


No you may not.

Rabble Rabble Rabble

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Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#37 - 2017-03-01 19:54:14 UTC
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
Yeah he learnd a lesson:

The lesson is - CCP did not teach others before they start playing their game that there are SCAMMERS everywhere;
That you CAN'T DOCK in some stations (as they are not stations at all);

And tbh if someones admit "YEAH I SCAMMED YOU" - he should be punished;


Punishment in Eve is left to the players, so if you want to punish him, go ahead and do your best to do so. CCP doesn't care about scamming, in fact they promote it. Also, anyone who doesn't know scamming exists in Eve, really didn't try to learn anything about the game before joining, so no sympathy from me.

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Tengu Grib
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#38 - 2017-03-01 19:57:04 UTC
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Pix Severus wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Scialt wrote:
MadMuppet wrote:
The docking delay thing has war implications that are unpleasant, and therefore instant right now. Could be worse, you could have cynoed a carrier in and been denied docking... gank.. poof.



This has always been a good reason... but a poster a few posts up had a good idea. What if citadels had a "delivery box"... essentially a can that was deposit only where deliveries could be dropped off without docking?


Don't know tbh. Idea has merit why don't you go think it through a little. Flesh it out a little more and put it in the features and ideas section. Who knows we may even see this come to pass if it's not stupidly hard to code for some reason


There is a mechanic that already exists in the game that allows progress/completion of a mission when an item is deposited into a can. It doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility.

I mean it seems reasonable to me. not the usual make it safer


I concur, it would be reasonable. If I were to see a well written well presented post I'd definitely read it.

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Scialt
Corporate Navy Police Force
Sleep Reapers
#39 - 2017-03-01 20:25:48 UTC
MadMuppet wrote:
Noragen Neirfallas wrote:
Scialt wrote:
MadMuppet wrote:
The docking delay thing has war implications that are unpleasant, and therefore instant right now. Could be worse, you could have cynoed a carrier in and been denied docking... gank.. poof.



This has always been a good reason... but a poster a few posts up had a good idea. What if citadels had a "delivery box"... essentially a can that was deposit only where deliveries could be dropped off without docking?


Don't know tbh. Idea has merit why don't you go think it through a little. Flesh it out a little more and put it in the features and ideas section. Who knows we may even see this come to pass if it's not stupidly hard to code for some reason


I can see it now. Fly in to the ring with your ship. Click on the 'unload cargo in to drop box'.

A circle with a timer starts over your ship, visible to all around you. "Unloading Cargo". No modules can be online while you do it. Maybe make it 1 second of timer for every 1000m3 of cargo you are offloading. That would like 50 seconds to offload a packaged battleship.


Think you're probably making it too complicated. We already have a mechanic for moving stuff from your cargo to a container in space (be it a secured container or a jetcan). Just use that same process. The hard part code wise is making the stuff go from the can to the station hangar for the delivery.
Neuntausend
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#40 - 2017-03-02 01:28:34 UTC
You can't get your ISK back, but you can pay some extra and see the scumbags citadel razed. What are you willing to pay, though? That's the question.
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