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High Sec Ganking - CONCORD Balance request

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Naye Nathaniel
COBRA INC
Seventh Sanctum.
#181 - 2017-02-26 11:10:22 UTC
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Erich Einstein wrote:

To prevent alpha clones from continually being rolled and used as disposable gank toons, I propose that only omega pilots be allowed to set their safety to red, while alpha clones can only set their safety to yellow at most.



except ganking is one of the most enjoyable and accessible parts of the game for a new player. it probably generates more subs than it costs.


If you think so then u have to be a short brained...
Lugh Crow-Slave
#182 - 2017-02-26 11:13:21 UTC
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Erich Einstein wrote:

To prevent alpha clones from continually being rolled and used as disposable gank toons, I propose that only omega pilots be allowed to set their safety to red, while alpha clones can only set their safety to yellow at most.



except ganking is one of the most enjoyable and accessible parts of the game for a new player. it probably generates more subs than it costs.


If you think so then u have to be a short brained...


what part isn't true?


hell when it comes to subscriptions ccp showed that ppl that get ganked are more likely too
Raymond Limyuri
Shadow Legion X
Seriously Suspicious
#183 - 2017-02-26 11:28:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Raymond Limyuri
Quote:
CCPlease implement this or something similar so that repeat gank fleets can not freely stage and travel in highsec. If career criminals want to take advantage of major markets like jita and amarr, then they can use an alt or carrier service to get goods. No need for career criminals to even be allowed in highsec. That is what a security status is meant to control.


Ganking is a fundamental part of this game, and nerfing it would make it go away. Burn Jita is happening and will happen again, the rationale behind it isn't "getting goods", or stealing loot. it is "fun". The success of burn jita is determined by "how many billions were destroyed", screw the loot. This game is a sandbox to the extent that kill mails are given a lot of value. Moreover, ganking isn't always as active as when burn Jita is happening, so only idiots would make themselves targets by AFK-mining and sitting on gates thinking that highsec is safe.

Have fun. Die. Repeat. Get over it.
Naye Nathaniel
COBRA INC
Seventh Sanctum.
#184 - 2017-02-26 11:49:34 UTC
It's so funny as mostly gangers speak in this thread as "Ganking is fine" :)
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#185 - 2017-02-26 11:53:34 UTC
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
It's so funny as mostly gangers speak in this thread as "Ganking is fine" :)



Got any proof that everyone who disagrees with you is a ganker, or are you just making the accusation because you have no actual answer to them?
Naye Nathaniel
COBRA INC
Seventh Sanctum.
#186 - 2017-02-26 12:21:24 UTC
Danika Princip wrote:
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
It's so funny as mostly gangers speak in this thread as "Ganking is fine" :)



Got any proof that everyone who disagrees with you is a ganker, or are you just making the accusation because you have no actual answer to them?


Killboard is "my proof"
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#187 - 2017-02-26 12:24:37 UTC
Well, I disagree with you entirely. Ganking is, if anything, overly nerfed at the moment.

Feel free to check my killboard before you call me a ganker too!
Naye Nathaniel
COBRA INC
Seventh Sanctum.
#188 - 2017-02-26 12:48:00 UTC  |  Edited by: Naye Nathaniel
Danika Princip wrote:
Well, I disagree with you entirely. Ganking is, if anything, overly nerfed at the moment.

Feel free to check my killboard before you call me a ganker too!


Nerfed? WTF Oo we play diff. games then;

And as you wish but u have to be trolling:

He is not a ganger

Even more no ganger here
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#189 - 2017-02-26 13:01:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Well, I disagree with you entirely. Ganking is, if anything, overly nerfed at the moment.

Feel free to check my killboard before you call me a ganker too!


Nerfed? WTF Oo we play diff. games then;

And as you wish but u have to be trolling:

He is not a ganger

Even more no ganger here
You're not too bright are you?

They are not their corp, their corp is not them Roll

I disagree with you too, have fun trying to paint me as a ganker.

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Lugh Crow-Slave
#190 - 2017-02-26 13:32:40 UTC
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
It's so funny as mostly gangers speak in this thread as "Ganking is fine" :)



Got any proof that everyone who disagrees with you is a ganker, or are you just making the accusation because you have no actual answer to them?


Killboard is "my proof"



okay show me just how much of a ganker i am then. i think you will find i have been ganked far more than i have ganked
Lugh Crow-Slave
#191 - 2017-02-26 13:35:04 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

They are not their corp, their corp is not them Roll

i must disagree with you

everything you do reflects on your corp everything your corp does reflects on you should you chose to associate yourself with some one you are guilty of their sins
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#192 - 2017-02-26 13:42:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

They are not their corp, their corp is not them Roll

i must disagree with you

everything you do reflects on your corp everything your corp does reflects on you should you chose to associate yourself with some one you are guilty of their sins
heh, true enough, associate with pirates, get called a pirate.

The point I was making is that he accused Danika personally of being a ganker, and then used Goonwaffes killboard to "prove" it, probably because Danika's killboard didn't tally with with his preconceptions about the people who disagree with him

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Lugh Crow-Slave
#193 - 2017-02-26 13:51:26 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Lugh Crow-Slave wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

They are not their corp, their corp is not them Roll

i must disagree with you

everything you do reflects on your corp everything your corp does reflects on you should you chose to associate yourself with some one you are guilty of their sins
heh, true enough, associate with pirates, get called a pirate.

The point I was making is that he accused Danika personally of being a ganker, and then used Goonwaffes killboard to "prove" it, probably because Danika's killboard didn't tally with with his preconceptions about the people who disagree with him


lol i'll let him have it there are plenty of people in this thread who are even in alliances and corps that he's not going to be able to point to.Pirate
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#194 - 2017-02-26 14:19:12 UTC
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Well, I disagree with you entirely. Ganking is, if anything, overly nerfed at the moment.

Feel free to check my killboard before you call me a ganker too!


Nerfed? WTF Oo we play diff. games then;

And as you wish but u have to be trolling:

He is not a ganger

Even more no ganger here


There are 3,000 people in Goonwaffe, and 25,000 people in Goonswarm federation. Linking those killboards does nothing to show that I am a ganker. You can find evidence of people in the corp or the alliance doing literally everything that is possible to do in this game and then some. Doesn't mean everyone does it.

While I am -8, that's because I do not think lowsec means I should avoid shooting the pod. All of the anti ganking ideas in this thread would lock me out of highsec too, and none have even attempted to justify that. Can you?

Please, post one single buff that ganking has received in the last five years.
Naye Nathaniel
COBRA INC
Seventh Sanctum.
#195 - 2017-02-26 15:02:40 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
Danika Princip wrote:
Well, I disagree with you entirely. Ganking is, if anything, overly nerfed at the moment.

Feel free to check my killboard before you call me a ganker too!


Nerfed? WTF Oo we play diff. games then;

And as you wish but u have to be trolling:

He is not a ganger

Even more no ganger here
You're not too bright are you?

They are not their corp, their corp is not them Roll

I disagree with you too, have fun trying to paint me as a ganker.


I give no **** - if you "live" in corp which is known from ganking others - for me you are ganger. thats all;
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#196 - 2017-02-26 15:19:51 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
I give no **** - if you "live" in corp which is known from ganking others - for me you are ganger. thats all;
I have a really big brush that can be used to apply tar. I also have a 360° excavator that can be used to make the hole you're digging for yourself even bigger.

Both are available to hire at reasonable rates.

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Jevatoxa
Amandla Legion
#197 - 2017-02-26 16:03:07 UTC
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
It's so funny as mostly gangers speak in this thread as "Ganking is fine" :)


Nope.

I'm not a ganker, but I believe ganking is fine. It adds an element of danger to Eve that keeps the game unique among MMOs. Ganking also stops multi-boxing AFK bots from stripping belt after belt and messing up the economy.

Countering gankers is ridiculously easy, but it requires you to engage with the Eve community and keep your wits about you. And to be at your keyboard. Hell, gankers are fine killboard-padding material if you play the game right; easy kills and an easy source of isk via the bounties and loot from the wrecks.

You have all the tools at your disposal to avoid being ganked; I don't see what the problem is.
elise densi
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#198 - 2017-02-26 16:05:46 UTC
This topic is going to places
Lugh Crow-Slave
#199 - 2017-02-26 16:36:35 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Naye Nathaniel wrote:
I give no **** - if you "live" in corp which is known from ganking others - for me you are ganger. thats all;
I have a really big brush that can be used to apply tar. I also have a 360° excavator that can be used to make the hole you're digging for yourself even bigger.

Both are available to hire at reasonable rates.


love how he didn't go to show how you and i were gankers lol
Andrew Xadi
TerraTroopers
Get Off My Lawn
#200 - 2017-02-26 16:38:23 UTC
Erich Einstein wrote:
To prevent alpha clones from continually being rolled and used as disposable gank toons, I propose that only omega pilots be allowed to set their safety to red, while alpha clones can only set their safety to yellow at most.



ok, so tell me please what would stop me from having an omega account instead of alpha and keep biomassing "toons" or whatever you call characters?