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Mining in Lowsec Space

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Zack Aphnos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#1 - 2017-02-26 11:23:33 UTC
Hi, I'm very new to EVE, started 2 days ago if it helps. I am currently doing my Industry Agent Missions step 10. It is asking me to create a Tormentor which requires a little amount of Zydrine. The info on Zydrine says that it can only be mined in 0.4 security status or lower (Amarr Empire). However, I have no experience at all in mining in lowsec space, and I need help. If you can provide any links, answers or tips on mining in lowsec space, I'd really appreciate it. I am also and Alpha Clone so I might not have access to all the skills and ships.
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2017-02-26 11:32:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Elena Thiesant
Don't mine it.

You need a tiny amount of Zydrine, buy it from the market. (right click the BP -> show info. Click the (i) to the right of the Zydrine entry and then click the "View market details" button at the bottom, and buy just the amount you need.)
Part of the industry career is learning to deal with the market, buying and selling. Take this as the first lesson.
Zack Aphnos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2017-02-26 11:49:42 UTC
I see. Thank you. Is it right to assume that I am not fit for mining in lowsec space yet?
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2017-02-26 11:57:05 UTC
You'll probably lose your ship. Not because of skills, but because you don't know what to watch for (everything) and you'll probably hit the wrong keys and die (I did).

Finish the career agents, maybe the SoE arc, then, with some ISK in the bank, take cheap ships to lowsec (or nullsec) and lose them.
Just not this early while you're still learning what key is warp, what key is stop and what that weird symbol on the overview is.
Zack Aphnos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2017-02-26 12:07:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Zack Aphnos
Okay, thank you for the help.

EDIT: One more thing, how do I complete the SoE arc? I am currently just doing missions from the Agents, I can't find the tutorial tab anymore that usually shows Aura Tips etc.?
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2017-02-26 12:14:49 UTC
For the Sisters of Eve Arc, go to the system Arnon, dock at the Sisters of Eve station there, and speak to the epic arc agent Sister Alitura
Zack Aphnos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2017-02-26 12:17:54 UTC
Okay, thank you very much for the help.
Akane Togenada
Doomheim
#8 - 2017-02-26 13:03:14 UTC
I believe you will get a Tormentor for free from one of the other career agents. I'd advice using that one to complete this mission instantly.
Do Little
Bluenose Trading
#9 - 2017-02-26 13:31:06 UTC
The Tormentor (or other racial logistics frigate) is given as a reward for completing the second mission for the exploration agent.

No need to build the ship unless you want to.

You seem to be a Gallente character running Amarr career missions. Gallente agent would be asking for a Navitas. If you're an Alpha, you won't be able to fly the ships you get from the Amarr agents.
Ajem Hinken
WarFear Gaming
#10 - 2017-02-26 15:34:34 UTC
Zack Aphnos wrote:
Hi, I'm very new to EVE, started 2 days ago if it helps. I am currently doing my Industry Agent Missions step 10. It is asking me to create a Tormentor which requires a little amount of Zydrine. The info on Zydrine says that it can only be mined in 0.4 security status or lower (Amarr Empire). However, I have no experience at all in mining in lowsec space, and I need help. If you can provide any links, answers or tips on mining in lowsec space, I'd really appreciate it. I am also and Alpha Clone so I might not have access to all the skills and ships.

Low-sec is relatively safe if you stick near the gates until you sort things out - things to look for:
.4 security
Few people
Many belts (helps for when you get attacked, just jump to another belt and keep digging)
Things optional but beneficial:
One or more neutral or friendly citadels you can jump to as a safe point
More than two gates out (3-4 is good)
Wormhole (if you can scan; only should be used in a 'I need to be anywhere but here' situation)

You'll also want to have a fast ship so you can warp to reference points like planets and fly in a straight line a ways (as a safe spot from players, as they won't be able to find you if you're not near a planet)

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6875494#post6875494 - Ship mounted explosives. Because explosions and Jita chaos.

Iria Ahrens
Space Perverts and Forum Pirates
#11 - 2017-02-26 16:12:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Iria Ahrens
Zack Aphnos wrote:
I see. Thank you. Is it right to assume that I am not fit for mining in lowsec space yet?


Oh, no. You can mine in LS just fine. Use your corvette and only the free mining lasers. You can remove the mining lasers, repackage the corvette, and unpack and stick the mining laser that you removed on it. Then jump in LS. You might get blown up a few times, but it will cost you nothing, and getting blown up will be good for you. And you will hopefully learn skills that will be useful when you do fly more expensive ships later. Learning to use d-scan, pre-aligning, and safespots are good lessons to learn today.

Don't fly the venture or any other not-free ship in ls until your income is strong enough that you won't be impacted by the loss of the ship.

That's the secret of Eve. A poorly kept secret that we tell everyone. Don't fly what you can't afford to lose. And you can always afford to lose a corvett.

My choice of pronouns is based on your avatar. Even if I know what is behind the avatar.

ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#12 - 2017-02-26 17:43:15 UTC
Eve is a deep game. I used to always want to source all of my own mats in "crafting" in other games. In Eve manufacturing is much more like an industrial process than crafting. You can run around and gather all of your own mats but it is not efficient.

You will eventually wind up finding your niche in this game. You will at that point stick mostly to the things that you enjoy doing and leaving other activities to other players.

In this example specifically you are probably better off just mining what is available to you now and selling excess ore / minerals that you have to buy what you don't. Or even just buying the end product that you need and figuring how to make the isk to "afford" it as a separate consideration.

In the end this is a game you should probably focus on what is more fun.

Also early on learning is probably the most valuable thing that you can do with your in game time so you may want to take learning experience into consideration from the perspective of them brining valuable experience.

Want to talk? Join Cara's channel in game: House Forelli

mkint
#13 - 2017-02-26 18:24:39 UTC
The lesson in that mission is that you'll often have to buy materials you need in order to build.

As far as mining in lowsec, most of the time don't bother. It adds serious complications for minimal additional rewards.

As far as doing all the new player stuff, do the full set of career agents. They are all tutorials and contain valuable information. It is a good idea to do the SOE arc even if you don't want a combat career since it will reinforce the basics of: inter-system travel, using the market to upgrade your stuff, working out what makes a usable loadout, and getting help when you run into a wall.

Maxim 6. If violence wasn’t your last resort, you failed to resort to enough of it.

Sara Starbuck
Adamantine Creations
#14 - 2017-02-26 20:10:15 UTC
mkint wrote:
As far as mining in lowsec, most of the time don't bother. It adds serious complications for minimal additional rewards.


Seconded, lowsec mining is major hassle with safety and hauling issues for minimal gains.
Lucian Skord
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2017-02-26 21:23:47 UTC
i hear mining in amamake is really good this time of year Big smile
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2017-02-27 07:56:09 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Hello and welcome to Eve,

Elena Thiesant & mkint both gave very good advice, following their suggestions will definitely help you quickly get familiar with the game.

Good luck and may you have a long and rewarding career here in Eve.



DMC
DeMichael Crimson
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#17 - 2017-02-27 08:15:09 UTC  |  Edited by: DeMichael Crimson
Do Little wrote:
The Tormentor (or other racial logistics frigate) is given as a reward for completing the second mission for the exploration agent.

No need to build the ship unless you want to.

You seem to be a Gallente character running Amarr career missions. Gallente agent would be asking for a Navitas. If you're an Alpha, you won't be able to fly the ships you get from the Amarr agents.

Do Little is 100% correct.

As a Gallente Alpha Clone, you can only pilot Gallente ships. Not exactly sure how you ended up running missions for Amarr Career Agents. The best explanation I can think of is you might have first taken a little sight seeing tour and was in Amarr space when you contacted the Career Agents.

I suggest you travel back to Gallente space and complete all of the missions for Gallente Career Agents.

Career Agent Locations



DMC
Zack Aphnos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2017-02-27 13:27:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Zack Aphnos
DeMichael Crimson wrote:
Do Little wrote:
The Tormentor (or other racial logistics frigate) is given as a reward for completing the second mission for the exploration agent.

No need to build the ship unless you want to.

You seem to be a Gallente character running Amarr career missions. Gallente agent would be asking for a Navitas. If you're an Alpha, you won't be able to fly the ships you get from the Amarr agents.

Do Little is 100% correct.

As a Gallente Alpha Clone, you can only pilot Gallente ships. Not exactly sure how you ended up running missions for Amarr Career Agents. The best explanation I can think of is you might have first taken a little sight seeing tour and was in Amarr space when you contacted the Career Agents.

I suggest you travel back to Gallente space and complete all of the missions for Gallente Career Agents.

Career Agent Locations



DMC


Hello. I was recruited by an Amarr corporation in which the leader initially seemed to be nice. However, I'm finding that he is rather rude in manners and rather crude in leading the team. He has given me free ships (two Ventures) to mine and he is also asking me to attend training sessions, though. His lessons are not the best (learning by myself seems to be more helpful) and he would often throw sarcastic remarks because of asking simple questions (which is, to me, unfamiliar since I'm still learning the basics). He initially asked me to jump to Yehnifi VI (or was it IV) and set it my home station. I was rather reluctant as first as this was very suspicious, but I did it anyway. I'm now considering quitting the corporation, but as a new player, I'm rather afraid of the chances that he might be able to hunt me down (although unrealistic since I do not own anything valuable). So is it safe to leave the corporation? I believe that he might be using new players for whatever reasons.

Also, if I jump to Gallente, will I be hunt down since I am now in an Amarr corporation and these two factions are different? I also have various items in the stations (Yehnifi and Conoban] which are probably worth some value to new players. I have did a bit of researching and it seems that the manual way is to transport them one by one (which will take me ages) or by using a special service? I'm rather intrigued in using the service; I'm not sure, however, if my ISK is enough to use this service (nearly 4m). Or is it better to just leave the items be there? Another thing is, I don't know how to use the service at all....

I'm very thankful for all the supportive responses and helpful tips from the other forumers as well. Thank you so much, once again.
Donnachadh
United Allegiance of Undesirables
#19 - 2017-02-27 13:36:23 UTC  |  Edited by: Donnachadh
Zack Aphnos wrote:
Hello. I was recruited by an Amarr corporation in which the leader initially seemed to be nice. However, I'm finding that he is rather rude in manners and rather crude in leading the team. However, he has given me free ships (two Ventures) to mine and he is also asking me to attend training sessions. He initially asked me to jump to Yehnifi VI (or was it IV) and set it my home station. I was rather reluctant as first as this is very suspicious, but I did it anyway. I'm now considering quitting the corporation, but as a new player, I'm rather afraid of the chances that he might be able to hunt me down (although unrealistic since I do not own anything valuable). So is it safe to leave the corporation? I believe that he might be using new players for whatever reasons.

Unfortunately there are many corps in EvE that are like this, they act friendly and helpful at first and then as you note turn to something entirely different. Do not despair there are many more corp out there that are truly helpful and friendly to those who chooser to join them.

Retribution in EvE for leaving a corp is always a possibility and how much stuff you have is not a factor. However this is a game and enjoying your time in it is more important than anything else, if you do not like the corp you are in leave and find another group of like minded players you enjoy spending your time with.
Zack Aphnos
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2017-02-27 13:41:59 UTC  |  Edited by: Zack Aphnos
Donnachadh wrote:
Zack Aphnos wrote:
Hello. I was recruited by an Amarr corporation in which the leader initially seemed to be nice. However, I'm finding that he is rather rude in manners and rather crude in leading the team. However, he has given me free ships (two Ventures) to mine and he is also asking me to attend training sessions. He initially asked me to jump to Yehnifi VI (or was it IV) and set it my home station. I was rather reluctant as first as this is very suspicious, but I did it anyway. I'm now considering quitting the corporation, but as a new player, I'm rather afraid of the chances that he might be able to hunt me down (although unrealistic since I do not own anything valuable). So is it safe to leave the corporation? I believe that he might be using new players for whatever reasons.

Unfortunately there are many corps in EvE that are like this, they act friendly and helpful at first and then as you note turn to something entirely different. Do not despair there are many more corp out there that are truly helpful and friendly to those who chooser to join them.

Retribution in EvE for leaving a corp is always a possibility and how much stuff you have is not a factor. However this is a game and enjoying your time in it is more important than anything else, if you do not like the corp you are in leave and find another group of like minded players you enjoy spending your time with.


Okay, then I am leaving the corp. Like what kind of retribution, though?

UPDATE: I was shot down by a Federation Navy First Sergeant while auto-piloting to Gallente... Why?
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