Player Features and Ideas Discussion

You mean at least one nerf.
All we've seen for years now are buffs, buffs, and more buffs, until the hardest part of ganking became logging in your alpha clone gank alt.

Its not fun for those getting ganked... their are two sides to every story. Also, the people you are ganking have put in more game time gathering their cargo than you do stealing it. Eve should not be that easy!

Disclaimer: I understand that ganking is a part of the game and I am completely ok with that. I actually like that people in highsec are not completely protected.

Given that, CONCORD and the security status are completely useless against repeat offenders (mainly -5.0 and lower) who fleet gank every 15min - 24hours a day. Yeah, im talking about those staged up in Jita V - Moon 17 station. Ganking as a profession and source of income should come with the requirement of having to manage and repair your security status based on the system that you are ganking in.

To implement this i propose two changes:

First:
CONCORD should respond differently if a pilot's security status falls low enough in a particular highsec system. This second phase of aggression would consist of stations and jump gates instantly webbing and warp-disrupting while CONCORD moves in. This prevents serial criminals from freely moving through highsec and also prevent gank fleets from staging in highsec systems unless they control their security status correctly. Customs officials already behave this way on gates so it makes complete sense to expand this behavior to CONCORD's abilities. CONCORD should not be made to look like fools who can be manipulated.

Here is an example of when this second phase would kick in:

1.0 system - CONCORD phase 2 (-4.0 and lower)
0.9 system - CONCORD phase 2 (-5.0 and lower)
0.8 system - CONCORD phase 2 (-6.0 and lower)
0.7 system - CONCORD phase 2 (-7.0 and lower)
0.6 system - CONCORD phase 2 (-8.0 and lower)
0.5 system - CONCORD phase 2 (-9.0 and lower)
0.4 system and lower - not applicable

Second:
To prevent alpha clones from continually being rolled and used as disposable gank toons, I propose that only omega pilots be allowed to set their safety to red, while alpha clones can only set their safety to yellow at most.

I feel that this will balance out the security and safety of highsec without damaging the ability to gank. This change will require gank fleets to put in an effort if they want to treat highsec like a free meal.

This would also bring more meaning to tags, where they can be used to repair status so that mission running is not the only option. Gankers would have to weigh tags cost against target profit to be effective.

CCPlease implement this or something similar so that repeat gank fleets can not freely stage and travel in highsec. If career criminals want to take advantage of major markets like jita and amarr, then they can use an alt or carrier service to get goods. No need for career criminals to even be allowed in highsec. That is what a security status is meant to control.

Then they are not criminals.

Those getting ganked were being stupid. Being stupid should never be fun or without consequences.

And yes, there are two sides and yet you are only paying attention to one side.

Edit:

And it is debatable that the freighter pilot has put in more time gathering his cargo. How long does it take to buy a few billion ISK of stuff? A few minutes. Probably less than 30 minutes. But lets say an hour.

Now, how much time is invested in the gank. Let me see, there is the guy who has been sitting on the undock scanning stuff. How long has he been waiting for a target to undock? Then there is the bumping ship. How long has he been waiting? Then there is the fleet itself. Granted, they might have sent out a ping and it formed in a fairly short time, but still it could take say 20-30 minutes. And there might be say, 25 guys in fleet. So when we start adding up all that time it is far from clear who has more time invested. One scrub or the 25-30 guys who are going to gank his scrub ass for being a dope.

No.

The Mutuality of Freighter Ganking

Ganking, especially freighters, has as much to do with the idiocy of the freighter pilot as the ganker. In fact, the freighter pilot's idiocy has to precede the actions of the suicide gankers. First, the freighter pilot does something idiotic (usually several idiotic somethings) then and only then can the suicide gankers act.

First, the rise of professional ganking organizations is a direct result of this kind of nonsense. Before ganking was a rather desultory activity. You worried about it, but not like today. Groups like CODE. and Miniluv, the latter of which ganks almost entirely for profit, were not a thing.

Second, nobody ganks every 15 minutes 24 hours/day. The reason why you get groups that can do that, like Miniluv, is because of requests like this.

Maybe you should stop making requests like this.

Third your idea would impact LS pirates too. It is ****** game design if you nerf the game play of people who are not in the target group.

As for Alphas, why limit their game play? What if they want to try LS pirating or suicide ganking to see if it is a career path they'd like to pursue in game and maybe even lead to them going Omega after finding out if they like it or not.

No, this is idea is **** from beginning to end. Even if you had just written the word '****' in place of every word in your current post it could not get any shittier.

Thats false, CONCORD appears right when these criminals undock and start pursuit before they have even attacked anything. This is because of their security status.

Interesting enough, this is one Person advocating another nerf to ganking and getting no backup at all. I would say the majority here is just fine with the mechanic as it is..... so no reason to pursue this further...