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Quickest way to get PLEX?

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Ajem Hinken
WarFear Gaming
#1 - 2017-02-23 11:41:51 UTC
What's the quickest way to get a PLEX? I've heard lots of idiots run off from Jita with them - on that note, do cargo scanners trigger CONCORD? (Because I'll likely just pinch it off of some poor idiot, sell it to some poor idiot, and repeat until I have money and PLEXes.)

Stealing seems the most efficient way - take the PLEXes from people who can afford them and sell them to other people who can afford them and continue to blow the buyers up, selling the PLEXes to recoup the losses (of about 12mil in a destroyer) until I have a good wallet so I can afford to keep them for myself.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6875494#post6875494 - Ship mounted explosives. Because explosions and Jita chaos.

Dark Lord Trump
Infinite Point
Pandemic Horde
#2 - 2017-02-23 12:39:07 UTC
You're going to need an alt for this. The chance of a PLEX sitting in a wreck on the Jita undock for 15 minutes is pretty much negative. After you gank, you'll have a criminal timer which will cause the destruction of any ship you undock with in hisec. It's also going to be boring, and require a lot of actions (since you have to cargo scan just about everything you think you can gank), so it's probably not the most efficient way you can make ISK. That said, fun/hour > ISK/hour, so if you enjoy it, gank away! Good on you for trying to find a way to part fools and their money.

I'm going to build a big wall that will keep the Gallente out, and they're going to pay for it!

Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2017-02-23 12:51:11 UTC
Cargo scanning does not trigger Concord but it's tedious. The best option is to fit a battleship with lots of highslots, like the Rokh with smartbombs, switch your safety to red, undock from Jita 4-4, wait 5s, and start the smart bombs. So you will eventually hit someone with PLEX in the cargo. Twisted


(I know it's NCQ&A, but sometimes ...)

I'm my own NPC alt.

pinkajoo
#4 - 2017-02-23 13:05:22 UTC
There was a reddit post about this the other day, and it goes like "..go shovel snow from someone's driveway..". Shelling out $$$ really is the quickest way to get PLEX, and helps CCP feed its hamsters.

If you're deadset on ganking ships that carry them, do it with others and enjoy the intel and organization tools that they have. The Goon's miniluv and CODE. comes into mind, try to drop them an evemail.

Another possibility is just sit on gates with a Mobile Tractor Unit and a fast aligning hauler of choice to ninja loot on suicide ganks. Spy on the gankers channel, follow kills on zkill and dotlan, etc..

A not-so quick way is to jump into null and join the big blocs to enjoy the content there, which is usually high paying.
Wolfgang Jannesen
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2017-02-23 13:20:55 UTC
^^^^ Go make some real cash and buy one.

You could sit around in Akita trying to camp people, but I feel like you're going to spend a lot of time sitting and not a lot of time looting plex off of wrecks (people learn quickly not to move me around in their holds,)
Gregorius Goldstein
Queens of the Drone Age
#6 - 2017-02-23 14:03:35 UTC
If you only get paid 5 $ an hour your real live ticks are at 111 Million ISK per 20min when buying PLEX for 15 $ a piece. If you earn more than that or buying cheaper PLEX your real live ticks increase accordingly. So if you are only looking for a fast way you have to beat those real live ticks first.

You can earn 200+ Million ISK per hour in EVE, so for some players “get a shovel” is NOT the fastest way to earn a PLEX. Problem is that most of those high income careers in EVE need some skills and investment up front, so as a newbie your options are very limited. Trading, scamming and ganking may be the least skill intensive ways to earn fast PLEX, but you still need some starter capital/brain/knollege to pull it off. Gas huffing and salvaging with a good WH corp may be another relativly fast way for a new player to earn PLEX.
Otago Dogwalker
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
#7 - 2017-02-23 20:47:14 UTC
Just buy one.

Keeps the game going by paying wages to CCP folks.
Ajem Hinken
WarFear Gaming
#8 - 2017-02-23 22:30:08 UTC
pinkajoo wrote:
There was a reddit post about this the other day, and it goes like "..go shovel snow from someone's driveway..". Shelling out $$$ really is the quickest way to get PLEX, and helps CCP feed its hamsters.

If you're deadset on ganking ships that carry them, do it with others and enjoy the intel and organization tools that they have. The Goon's miniluv and CODE. comes into mind, try to drop them an evemail.

Another possibility is just sit on gates with a Mobile Tractor Unit and a fast aligning hauler of choice to ninja loot on suicide ganks. Spy on the gankers channel, follow kills on zkill and dotlan, etc..

A not-so quick way is to jump into null and join the big blocs to enjoy the content there, which is usually high paying.

I'm just considering options - I don't want to have to spend money on the game if I don't have to.

So far, seems like stealing is the best option :P How big even are PLEX'es? I'm thinking if I can fit out a cheap ship for robbing PLEX-laden graves or even making them myself, I'll easily be able to nab one a month - keep it minimal and keep the food unaware. :P

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6875494#post6875494 - Ship mounted explosives. Because explosions and Jita chaos.

Ajem Hinken
WarFear Gaming
#9 - 2017-02-23 22:31:18 UTC
Tipa Riot wrote:
Cargo scanning does not trigger Concord but it's tedious. The best option is to fit a battleship with lots of highslots, like the Rokh with smartbombs, switch your safety to red, undock from Jita 4-4, wait 5s, and start the smart bombs. So you will eventually hit someone with PLEX in the cargo. Twisted


(I know it's NCQ&A, but sometimes ...)

... and alpha's can do that?

There's one BC I think for them, but that's it...

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6875494#post6875494 - Ship mounted explosives. Because explosions and Jita chaos.

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#10 - 2017-02-24 00:54:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Jonah Gravenstein
pinkajoo wrote:
Another possibility is just sit on gates with a Mobile Tractor Unit and a fast aligning hauler of choice to ninja loot on suicide ganks. Spy on the gankers channel, follow kills on zkill and dotlan, etc..
Won't work unless you're only looting the gankers ships after Concord wrecks them, those wrecks are marked as abandoned ; the wreck of whatever gets ganked belongs to the person flying it before the explosive cargo inspection (yellow) because a gank is an illegal kill, hence Concordokken.

An MTU will only pull blue (abandoned) or white (your legal kills) wrecks. Tractor beams, regardless of whether on a ship or part of an MTU don't work on yellow wrecks.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Ajem Hinken
WarFear Gaming
#11 - 2017-02-24 01:13:54 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
pinkajoo wrote:
Another possibility is just sit on gates with a Mobile Tractor Unit and a fast aligning hauler of choice to ninja loot on suicide ganks. Spy on the gankers channel, follow kills on zkill and dotlan, etc..
Won't work unless you're only looting the gankers ships after Concord wrecks them, those wrecks are marked as abandoned ; the wreck of whatever gets ganked belongs to the person flying it before the explosive cargo inspection (yellow) because a gank is an illegal kill, hence Concordokken.

An MTU will only pull blue (abandoned) or white (your legal kills) wrecks. Tractor beams, regardless of whether on a ship or part of an MTU don't work on yellow wrecks.

Someone used one on one of my wrecks, and it hadn't timed out. They just got a susp flag and a little lead from my drones xD

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6875494#post6875494 - Ship mounted explosives. Because explosions and Jita chaos.

Ajem Hinken
WarFear Gaming
#12 - 2017-02-24 01:17:02 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
pinkajoo wrote:
Another possibility is just sit on gates with a Mobile Tractor Unit and a fast aligning hauler of choice to ninja loot on suicide ganks. Spy on the gankers channel, follow kills on zkill and dotlan, etc..
Won't work unless you're only looting the gankers ships after Concord wrecks them, those wrecks are marked as abandoned ; the wreck of whatever gets ganked belongs to the person flying it before the explosive cargo inspection (yellow) because a gank is an illegal kill, hence Concordokken.

An MTU will only pull blue (abandoned) or white (your legal kills) wrecks. Tractor beams, regardless of whether on a ship or part of an MTU don't work on yellow wrecks.

I can get a Merlin to go a solid 1-2kms... enough to drive-by a wreck and loot it and then be outta there before anyone realizes what happens... so that'a not out of the question even without a MTU.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=6875494#post6875494 - Ship mounted explosives. Because explosions and Jita chaos.

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#13 - 2017-02-24 02:38:51 UTC
Ajem Hinken wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
pinkajoo wrote:
Another possibility is just sit on gates with a Mobile Tractor Unit and a fast aligning hauler of choice to ninja loot on suicide ganks. Spy on the gankers channel, follow kills on zkill and dotlan, etc..
Won't work unless you're only looting the gankers ships after Concord wrecks them, those wrecks are marked as abandoned ; the wreck of whatever gets ganked belongs to the person flying it before the explosive cargo inspection (yellow) because a gank is an illegal kill, hence Concordokken.

An MTU will only pull blue (abandoned) or white (your legal kills) wrecks. Tractor beams, regardless of whether on a ship or part of an MTU don't work on yellow wrecks.

Someone used one on one of my wrecks, and it hadn't timed out. They just got a susp flag and a little lead from my drones xD
Did what with one of your wrecks? And what do you mean by timed out?

If they went suspect they probably looted the wreck, they wouldn't have been able to activate a tractor beam on a wreck that wasn't A: theirs or B: abandoned, the game simply won't allow it.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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ergherhdfgh
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2017-02-24 10:57:23 UTC
Ajem Hinken wrote:

I'm just considering options - I don't want to have to spend money on the game if I don't have to.

Spending most of your time in game trying to EARN isk just because you want to be cheap is a good way to turn a game into a job. $15 for a month's worth of entertainment is not much money at all. You will spend more than that on cable TV or a night out.

IMHO you really need to think about what it is you are trying to do. When you are at work in your real life job you are trying to make money. Do you really want to come home at night and do the same thing in your gaming life?

To me Eve is a game and as such fun should be the priority. You should not be asking yourself "how can I earn a PLEX as fast as possible" you should be asking yourself "how can I enjoy my time in game as much as possible".

That's just my two cents. In the end it's your game time and you can turn it into a job if you want to.

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Ajem Hinken
WarFear Gaming
#15 - 2017-02-24 11:29:22 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
Ajem Hinken wrote:
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:
pinkajoo wrote:
Another possibility is just sit on gates with a Mobile Tractor Unit and a fast aligning hauler of choice to ninja loot on suicide ganks. Spy on the gankers channel, follow kills on zkill and dotlan, etc..
Won't work unless you're only looting the gankers ships after Concord wrecks them, those wrecks are marked as abandoned ; the wreck of whatever gets ganked belongs to the person flying it before the explosive cargo inspection (yellow) because a gank is an illegal kill, hence Concordokken.

An MTU will only pull blue (abandoned) or white (your legal kills) wrecks. Tractor beams, regardless of whether on a ship or part of an MTU don't work on yellow wrecks.

Someone used one on one of my wrecks, and it hadn't timed out. They just got a susp flag and a little lead from my drones xD
Did what with one of your wrecks? And what do you mean by timed out?

If they went suspect they probably looted the wreck, they wouldn't have been able to activate a tractor beam on a wreck that wasn't A: theirs or B: abandoned, the game simply won't allow it.

Wrecks go abandoned after awhile. I was gonna salvage the accidental kill I got I'm my Venture... but he snapped it up somehow. Along with one of our secure containers...

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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
#16 - 2017-02-24 11:54:16 UTC
Ajem Hinken wrote:
Wrecks go abandoned after awhile. I was gonna salvage the accidental kill I got I'm my Venture... but he snapped it up somehow.
Unless CCP have changed it recently you're mistaken, the ownership flag of wrecks only changes if the owner abandons them via the right click menu; they do despawn after a while (approx 2hrs)

Quote:
Along with one of our secure containers...
Secure containers are only secure if they are both anchored and password protected.

In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded.

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Wander Prian
Nosferatu Security Foundation
#17 - 2017-02-24 12:20:04 UTC
The point of Eve is to not be able to get a PLEX within a month of you starting to play the game. The point of Eve is to have fun and learn the game. After that you can maybe make enough ISK for a PLEX without grinding your fun out of the game.

Wormholer for life.

Ajem Hinken
WarFear Gaming
#18 - 2017-02-24 12:27:22 UTC
Wander Prian wrote:
The point of Eve is to not be able to get a PLEX within a month of you starting to play the game. The point of Eve is to have fun and learn the game. After that you can maybe make enough ISK for a PLEX without grinding your fun out of the game.

Unless you get lucky with a MWD Merlin snatching gank wrecks in Jita...

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Gregorius Goldstein
Queens of the Drone Age
#19 - 2017-02-24 12:37:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Gregorius Goldstein
Ajem Hinken wrote:

I'm just considering options - I don't want to have to spend money on the game if I don't have to.


You don't have to spend money on digital entertainment; there are a lot of great things that are totally for free. Like EVE alpha clones are. But EVE omega clones aren't, you either pay with real money or with your time. If you can enjoy the grind for a PLEX it may be worth it, but for most players this seems not to be the case.

Just like you can listen to free music streams all day, but you will have to buy a ticket or climb fences in order to have the music live on stage. Sometimes I wonder why spending money on online games is such a special thing to some people. You either pay for the books you read or get them from a library. You pay for the cinema or you wait until the film will be shown in free-TV. One way is more convenient, the other way is free but with restrictions. You seldom get both at the same time.
Wander Prian
Nosferatu Security Foundation
#20 - 2017-02-24 14:04:34 UTC
Ajem Hinken wrote:
Wander Prian wrote:
The point of Eve is to not be able to get a PLEX within a month of you starting to play the game. The point of Eve is to have fun and learn the game. After that you can maybe make enough ISK for a PLEX without grinding your fun out of the game.

Unless you get lucky with a MWD Merlin snatching gank wrecks in Jita...


That requires the same amount of luck as winning the lottery, or getting hit by lightning. If your only goal is to get omega and not pay real money, you will grind all the fun out of the game and quit.

Start as an alpha and learn the game. Once you feel confident, pay for a few months to get you started. Once you have some basic ways to make money ready, then you can start thinking about PLEX.

Being omega is not the goal of the game. Neither is playing for free.

Wormholer for life.

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