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Understating Stasis Webifier Bonus

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Cpt zer0
Goomba Mining Corporation
#1 - 2017-02-24 04:08:01 UTC
Hi All,
Looking at buying a alt ship for my Charon, have read up a bit on stasis webifiers but came across 2x different bonus types i'm unsure of, not too concerned about the range as this shouldn't really be a problem coming out of warp gates etc however....

some of this ships i've been looking at for example seem to be worded differently for the bonus they provide
Daredevil - provides a 10% bonus to Stasis Webifier effectiveness
VS
Violator - 30% bonus to Stasis Webifier max velocity factor

does this mean to have my charon warp quicker i would want to invest in the Violator over the Daredevil?

sorry if this has been asked and answered i tried combing the forums but could only find info relating to the Webifier effectiveness factor, not too sure what it means by Max Velocity Factor, are these 2x terms interchangeable or is there a difference here, cheers

Help is much appreciated
Valkin Mordirc
#2 - 2017-02-24 04:58:29 UTC
Pretty sure the Violator is a flat 30% bonus compared to a max skilled Daredevil would be a 50%. So you would better using a Daredevil if your skills for the minmatar frigate skill is 4 or above.

#DeleteTheWeak
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#3 - 2017-02-24 05:00:36 UTC  |  Edited by: ShahFluffers
The wording may be different, but it is the same bonus.

With max skills, a web on a Daredevil will have 90% strength**.
With max skills, a web on a Violator will have something closer to 70% strength** (not that skills matter though as the web bonus on a Violator is actually a role bonus).

** "Web Strength" is the percentage that the web reduces a target's speed.
See also: "effectiveness" and "velocity factor"


But two issues immediately spring to mind:

- the Violator is a Pirate faction rookie ship.
------- This means that it is more or less as weak as a "normal" rookie ship (see: a stiff breeze can kill it).
------- Unless I am missing something, these ships are limited issue (having only been given out once or twice in the history of EVE) and there is no way to get a replacement. This makes them a collector's item and thus REALLY expensive.

- the Daredevil may not be the optimal choice if all you want to do is web a freighter into warp.
------- Even with the effectiveness bonus, the range is still 10km. This means some time may be lost getting into range before you can web a freighter and send it into warp.
------- Two "normal strength" webs can achieve an ~87% reduction in speed... which is damn close. A Cruor or Hyena with two normal webs may be a better choice as they have a range bonus and will not need to travel much to be in range of the target freighter.
Yngvar ayShorn
Einheit X-6
#4 - 2017-02-24 09:22:59 UTC
What Shah said.

Cruor only has 20km Webs.
Hyena will have 30km Webs. It's even cheaper then a Cruor.
(or, if you want to spent some moar ISKies, Rapier/Huginn have 40km webs)
km range if you use normale/T2 Webs. Faction Webs could offer you some more kms in range.

If I had to web something in warp, i would use a hyena.

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