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Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#21 - 2017-02-23 13:39:32 UTC
Agent 5B wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:




Stop being lazy and make some tactical bm on your route. If it's a pvp roam through dangerous space - assume you'll lose your pod, that way if you don't - you'll be extra happy instead of all this Negative Nancy hoo haw you are on about.


It's a bit like speed humps in some places/era they were referred to as sleeping policemen. Smart bombers are like someone really did just lie in the road all day to slow traffic down.


That reminds me is there a way to get more than 500 corporation bookmarks, 500 is only really enough for perches on every gate in one war zone ?


or you could just warp to a random planet...

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
#22 - 2017-02-23 15:23:43 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Agent 5B wrote:
Serendipity Lost wrote:




Stop being lazy and make some tactical bm on your route. If it's a pvp roam through dangerous space - assume you'll lose your pod, that way if you don't - you'll be extra happy instead of all this Negative Nancy hoo haw you are on about.


It's a bit like speed humps in some places/era they were referred to as sleeping policemen. Smart bombers are like someone really did just lie in the road all day to slow traffic down.


That reminds me is there a way to get more than 500 corporation bookmarks, 500 is only really enough for perches on every gate in one war zone ?


or you could just warp to a random planet...



I would say the majority of systems have a celestial in dscan range of all the gates. Not all though. Some of the classic smart bomb gates don't.


As far as the 500 limit. Use personal ones for smartbomb gates you are worried about. They don't have to be handed out or maintained on the corp level. Let's be honest though, there are only a few gates you have to really worry about. There is no need to have a tactical for every gate in Eve.
Agent 5B
Venom and Bullet Corporation
Metropolis Defense
#23 - 2017-02-24 04:55:01 UTC
Henry Plantgenet wrote:
smartbombing mallers in niarja/uttindar are something you must not have seen then :)
pop goes the shuttle/leopard/wookie ship.
What might make more sense and more of a headache for the developers is to make smartbomb more like a thing that activates and does damage every second for the full cycle. (so 10 hits of 30 instead of 1 hit of 300 for a random smartbomb.)
Because you see the flash but why does it only do an initial damage and not for the duration of the flash?


I have seen a Maller attempt to smart bomb my shuttle in high sec and fail it was in Bei not in Niarja and after the pathetic attempt code still had the nerve to send me a let that be a warning to you message.


Lan Wang wrote:


or you could just warp to a random planet...


I'm a bit more badass than that

Serendipity Lost wrote:



I would say the majority of systems have a celestial in dscan range of all the gates. Not all though. Some of the classic smart bomb gates don't.


As far as the 500 limit. Use personal ones for smartbomb gates you are worried about. They don't have to be handed out or maintained on the corp level. Let's be honest though, there are only a few gates you have to really worry about. There is no need to have a tactical for every gate in Eve.



14 AU is a very small system, ok 140 AU is quite rare but 30 - 50 AU is quite common. Not every gate in eve just every gate that you regularly use which for me is every gate in the war zone plus all the main high sec routes between trade hubs.
Agent 1A
Venom and Bullet Corporation
Metropolis Defense
#24 - 2017-02-24 06:53:19 UTC
Agent 5B wrote:


I'm a bit more badass than that



PFFFT
Dimitrios Bekas
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#25 - 2017-03-07 16:58:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Dimitrios Bekas
There are PLayers that SB 24/7 and kill shiney Pods. So yes, it is still a thing for some players.
Same with "Rupture/Thrasher" Throwaway Arty Fits killing Shuttles, Frigates and then the Pods....in Highsec.
Randomly, just for every 10th Pod to be expensive, maybe...

Activating the Smartbombs at the End of the Cycle would make Smartbombing Pods in a BS/BC/T3C positioned 5-6km away from Gates (in line from the Gate the Pod came from) nearly impossible...

Sure, you can have Cloaky Eyes on the other Gate. See the Pod WARP, and get a feeling WHEN to activate the Bombs...but thats a totally different "thing" as it is now, more effort than just Dscan 5^Degree towards the Gate and you need your second Account in that system. And way more Pods/TravelCeptors without Tank would escape, way way more...

Thats what i believe...and it would also totally take out the possibility to grab your SB Machariel and get rid of 6 NanoArty Claws in one swoop at the Entrance Gate of your Miner/Ratting Staging System in Null.

Placing the Machariel at your SB Tacticals around the Gate at the right time and get infos where they warp to is difficult enough, with delayed Smartbombs this "funny" PVP Activity of mine would be destroyed completely.

On the other Hand, lessons nead to be learned, and losing pricey implants vs. a Smartbomber, or flying around in a Shuttle / Atron with Autopilot and get wrecked after you come back of your tasty Pizza...and see 900m lost....well, i learned my lessons, and so should everyone else. It feels salty at the beginning but after a week you laugh about it.

Also you have a good story to tell your friends :D "Guys you won´t believe what happend yesterday....this M**********R..." :D

How it would affect the Implant Market i can´t tell you, because People loose their Blinky Pods in a lot of other stupid situations too :)
Agent 5B
Venom and Bullet Corporation
Metropolis Defense
#26 - 2017-03-09 16:42:49 UTC
I get your point 90% of PVP is about finding a situation where the opponent doesn't stand a chance, why is smart bombing any different ?

Maybe I am just lucky and have found the other 10%.
Frostys Virpio
State War Academy
Caldari State
#27 - 2017-03-09 20:16:16 UTC
Agent 5B wrote:
I get your point 90% of PVP is about finding a situation where the opponent doesn't stand a chance, why is smart bombing any different ?

Maybe I am just lucky and have found the other 10%.


Most smart bomb kills are not the attacker putting you in a situation where you have next to no chance but the victim putting himself in such situation. The "other 10%" in this case would be if you somehow probed people or something like that to smart bomb them. If you do that, hats off because I'm sure I will never have the will to do that.
Agent 5B
Venom and Bullet Corporation
Metropolis Defense
#28 - 2017-03-09 23:33:57 UTC
Frostys Virpio wrote:


Most smart bomb kills are not the attacker putting you in a situation where you have next to no chance but the victim putting himself in such situation..


You show me one time the pod has killed the smart bomber instead of the other way round
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#29 - 2017-03-10 01:17:01 UTC
There's no reason for this change. In fact, I imagine it would introduce some problematic game mechanics because the ship might no longer exist at the end of the smartbomb cycle. So, no.

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#30 - 2017-03-10 07:00:51 UTC
Agent 5B wrote:
Frostys Virpio wrote:


Most smart bomb kills are not the attacker putting you in a situation where you have next to no chance but the victim putting himself in such situation..


You show me one time the pod has killed the smart bomber instead of the other way round


You dont have to kill something to beat it, you just have to avoid it, and using a ping before warping to a gate is basically giving the middle finger to a smartbomber

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
#31 - 2017-03-10 07:04:05 UTC
Using a ping...?

I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
Lan Wang
Princess Aiko Hold My Hand
Safety. Net
#32 - 2017-03-10 09:07:21 UTC
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Using a ping...?


yes or even simply warping to a planet, both work pretty well Big smile

Domination Nephilim - Angel Cartel

Calm down miner. As you pointed out, people think they can get away with stuff they would not in rl... Like for example illegal mining... - Ima Wreckyou*
Agent 5B
Venom and Bullet Corporation
Metropolis Defense
#33 - 2017-03-11 00:04:55 UTC  |  Edited by: Agent 5B
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
There's no reason for this change. In fact, I imagine it would introduce some problematic game mechanics because the ship might no longer exist at the end of the smartbomb cycle. So, no.


Do you even know what that post means ?


OK I will try to figure it out .

There is no reason for this change .. Other than not losing pods to some one button wonder.

It might introduce some problematic game mechanics .. Yeah it might but what ?

.. Because the ship might no longer exist .. Because it was destroyed ? Left system ? Or simply ceased to exist because the change to this module would produce a virus in the code that would cause ships to cease to exist ?
Agent 5B
Venom and Bullet Corporation
Metropolis Defense
#34 - 2017-03-11 00:15:31 UTC
Lan Wang wrote:
Arthur Aihaken wrote:
Using a ping...?


yes or even simply warping to a planet, both work pretty well Big smile


The best way to avoid smart bombers is not to use star gates
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